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Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:39 am to
Posted by ffishstik
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 12:39 am to
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I was thinking that they'd use Bran's story next season to do some of the backstory that was missing, and had no idea how else they'd progress it.



That was my theory. Not the first one that was wrong, probably won't be the last.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 5:12 pm to
Saw this meme on my newsfeed:

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 5:18 pm to
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That was my theory. Not the first one that was wrong, probably won't be the last.


Yeah, they have to elaborate in the next season at least somewhat about Lyanna and Rhaegar, or else the Hodors will be pissed. It's almost certain that the next novel Jon will find out about his ancestry, as well as being named Robb's heir, so this is the season where they at least have to foreshadow it.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 5:27 pm to
I think Oberyn hinted at it in S4E1 with his conversation with Tyrion. He said something along the lines of "Rhaegar Targaryen ran off with another woman..."
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 5:31 pm to
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I think Oberyn hinted at it in S4E1 with his conversation with Tyrion. He said something along the lines of "Rhaegar Targaryen ran off with another woman..."

If the Hodors had been paying attention (which they haven't) they'd already know that. I'm thinking a more "promise me Ned", or flashback to the Tower of Joy.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 5:34 pm to
Not sure if we'll have that this season since Bran won't be back until Season 6. I'm thinking we won't get the R+L=J reveal until Season 6 and will be revealed around halfway through TWoW.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 5:34 pm to
D&D has been pretty adamant about not using flashbacks (they mentioned it again this last ComicCon that they don't like doing them), so they'll probably incorporate it by some other means. I don't know that we'll ever see a full on flashback on the show.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 5:54 pm to
I'd love to see that Ned flashback when he's praying at the Weirwood that Jon and Robb grow close like brothers.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 6:24 pm to
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Not sure if we'll have that this season since Bran won't be back until Season 6. I'm thinking we won't get the R+L=J reveal until Season 6 and will be revealed around halfway through TWoW.


Completely agree, I'm just saying they need to start foreshadowing it this season, and aside from Bran, I'm not sure how they can do it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 6:26 pm to
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D&D has been pretty adamant about not using flashbacks (they mentioned it again this last ComicCon that they don't like doing them), so they'll probably incorporate it by some other means. I don't know that we'll ever see a full on flashback on the show.


We're getting one this season, in the form of Maggy the Frog. I really don't know why they don't like doing flashbacks.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:37 pm to
Same here; kind of makes me think they're lazy.

The Maggy the Frog scene should be great. Hodors' minds will be blown.
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:51 pm to
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Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 9:52 pm to
Honestly, I think we should have seen the following flashbacks/visions:

1) Tower of Joy (obviously)
2) The Knight of the Laughing Tree (would be great if they did it in the manner of the Tale of Three Brothers from the Deathly Hallows: LINK)
3) Jaime killing Aerys and Ned walking in on him.
4) Jaime's vision of being dragged to the cellars of Casterly Rock, with his family abandoning him and then meeting Rhaegar and the former Kingsguard.
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 11:31 pm to
Awesome
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 9/7/14 at 11:33 pm to
#4 would be the most relevant to the current happenings in the books/show.
Posted by Gugich22
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:17 am to
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4) Jaime's vision of being dragged to the cellars of Casterly Rock, with his family abandoning him and then meeting Rhaegar and the former Kingsguard.




Did I completely miss this in the books?
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 10:54 am to
It was a dream he had. Storm of Swords I believe.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/8/14 at 12:26 pm to
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Did I completely miss this in the books?


It's in the chapter where Jaime saves Brienne from the bear.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:25 am to
No one has posted in here in 5 days .
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:34 am to
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We're getting one this season, in the form of Maggy the Frog. I really don't know why they don't like doing flashbacks.

Have they ever mentioned maggy in the show? At all?

If david and Dan have said they won't use flashbacks, then it's possible they could just bring maggy into the current timeline. There's a lot of jumping to conclusions that since maggy is being introduced that there will automatically be flashbacks now.
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