re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

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Would be awesome but sounds expensive from production standpoint.

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I don't see why it would be that expensive. I'd show it more as a creative dream sequence, that has some sort of mist around it. Maybe make it close in style to the The History and Lore of Westeros, but much more elaborate, similar to The Tale of Three Brothers from the Deathly Hallows.

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I don't see why it would be that expensive.

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Horses, trainers, costumes, actors. It would be like putting on a Renaissance Fair with a production/camera crew. This is on top of whatever ungodly amount of money they are spending with the battle at the Wall.

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I'd show it more as a creative dream sequence, that has some sort of mist around it. Maybe make it close in style to the The History and Lore of Westeros, but much more elaborate, similar to The Tale of Three Brothers from the Deathly Hallows.

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Yeah, they could cut some corners and make it work but a live action flashback would probably be too much.

I'd be happy with a narrated/animated version.

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Horses, trainers, costumes, actors. It would be like putting on a Renaissance Fair with a production/camera crew. This is on top of whatever ungodly amount of money they are spending with the battle at the Wall.

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You don't need to show that much. Get 3 horses and fade out the background via dream sequence. Seems pretty easy since it's really presented in the books as more a tale than actual history.

Agreed. I never understood why Howland told his children the story and Ned didn't tell his. Makes me wonder if Howland told Meera & Jojen about the ToJ.

Didn't Doran prevent Oberyn from killing Darkstar as a child?

I don't know what its going to be but I'm expecting some huge twist on what we think we know about the ToJ. The show has skipped that and more to avoid book spoilers.

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and show don't tell. The only time I think that has really worked on this show to its advantage is Jaime telling the story of the Mad King, since he needs to tell you of his inner turmoil at that point in his life, and when Tyrion told Bronn and Shae his history with Tysha.

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and Varys' tale of how he got cut when Tyrion finds him with the guy in the crate.

There's a topic on ASOIAF forums about this that I googled. And I never thought about this (in that the reveal will be revealed to us the readers through another POV character, to Jon himself, and then to Westeros at-large):

How will Jon's parentage be revealed?

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There are really three reveals here and I'm almost certain they will not happen at the same time.

1) Reveal to the readers that Jon is Rhaegar and Lyanna's trueborn son.
2) Reveal to Jon that he is Rhaegar and Lyanna's trueborn son.
3) Reveal to Westeros that he is Rhaegar and Lyanna's trueborn son.

Bran/Howland Reed/Wylla/Bloodraven all certainly know the truth or in Bran's case will soon. Of those people Howland Reed is the only one who might have proof that the outside world will believe (i.e. something he's been holding on to or something that he knows is hidden somewhere just in case Jon revealing himself became necessary) so I think he'll come into play at some point even if just to confirm what Jon suspects and make the announcement public.

Dany is a bit of a wild card since prophetic visions seem to find her. So I could see her learning that she does have family still in Westeros aside from the boy calling himself Aegon (so want him to be the real deal....so doubt that he actually is) in some sort of vision/House of the Undying experience and thus not only informing her of a reason to get her butt to Westeros but taking care of reveal #1 by telling the audience of the truth before any of the Westerosi-based character's know or even suspect.

I don't think Jon will be the last to know but I'm more than willing to bet that the first time he's told (unless it is litterally spelled out for him and someone says outright "you're not Ned Stark's son. You're the trueborn son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark") he won't totally get/believe it and will then go looking for answers. So I suspect it will go something like this...in a dream/coma he gets information from Bran that almost manages to get the truth across (one of those times when the readers get it but Jon doesn't cause he thinks Bran is dead, doesn't think Ned would lie, isn't really comfortable with his powers so he doesn't trust them, etc..) and when he wakes up he'll have a ton of questions and go searching for answers which will hopefully lead him to Howland Reed and some more concrete proof than anything he might get via Bran and the weirwood network.

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ETA: Here's a list of characters who could find out about R+L=J

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atpthornton, I agree with a lot your post. The reveals could anyone's chapter including the prologue and epilogue POVs. How it's revealed will determine the POV its revealed in. I have a few rough categories that aren't perfect, and some POVs could belong in more than one category.

The reveal is done using the supernatural or the reveal is done at a place associated with the supernatural or supernatural practitioners ie the Citadel, House of Black & White, Skagos

Bran, Dany, Arya, Davos, Sam, Melissandre, Theon, Victarion, Aeron

The reveal happens because a character who has most of the backstory finally puts it all together or receives that all important final clue

Jaime, Jon Connington, Barristan, Cersei,

Characters who may be around the character who gets the reveal or chooses to reveal

Areo, Arianne, Asha, Brienne

Characters who tend to have things revealed to them

Sansa, Tyrion --& Tyrion's a strong case because he will probably around characters like Dany and Barristan, and he tends to figure things out like YG's identity and who sent the guy to kill Bran.

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I don't remember the exact phrasing but when Jojen tells the story of the KotLT Bran guesses at the end that the Dragon Prince would crown the Wolf Girl the Queen of Love and Beauty and Jojen replied that he did, but that's another story, or a darker story, or something to that effect. It definitely sounded like Jojen knew Jon's little secret.

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"Oh." Bran thought about the tale awhile. "That was a good story. But it should have been the three bad knights who hurt him, not their squires. Then the little crannogman could have killed them all. The part about the ransomes was stupid. And the mystery knight should win the tourney, defeating every challenger, and name the wolf maid the queen of love and beauty."

"She was," said Meera, "but that's a sadder story."

"Are you certain you never heard this tale before, Bran?" asked Jojen. "Your lord father never told it to you?"