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Posted on 5/7/13 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 1:36 pm to
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So...I still haven't figured out who killed Joffrey. Any thoughts?



Olenna Tyrell
Probably Margeary
Littlefinger
Sansa being used as a carrier
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

Olenna Tyrell (possibly using Margaery) in a plot with littlefinger




What was Littlefinger's involvement?

The timing of his rescue of Sansa does seem to indicate some prior knowledge but is that it?
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

Sansa being used as a carrier

This seemed like a bitch move to get her involved like this. (Some insurance for Baelish should Sansa ever turn on him I guess)
Posted by Ash Williams
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 1:45 pm to
too bad he's not an LSU fan, then he would have a character described as:

"Ser Markis of House Rusell was a monster of a man. He had the coloring of a man whose ancestry could be traced to the Summer Islands which is likely where his House Sigil orignated as well. His Shield bore a grey hairless mammoth set on a crimson background, even though he had been fostered in the Death Valley of Dorn under the tutelage of Lord Les the Stutterer.

Ser Markis stood taller than all but the Mountain that Rides, but a more talented knight, you could never find. However, it was the knowledge of his own talent that led to his eventual downfall. After winning many lower tourneys his pride and fame became a poison to his work ethic and sense. He squandered all of his winnings on helms glistening with diamonds and clothing that would make even Ser Loras Tyrell blush. When his downfall started he turned to the Purple Milk of the Poppy to ease his struggles... which had the effect that one might expect.

After years of obscurity Ser Markis is attempting to return to the Tourney Circuit. However, with his current age and a belly that would make Ser Manderly blush, one must wonder if he'll ever have another chance at greatness..."
This post was edited on 5/7/13 at 1:47 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108376 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

What was Littlefinger's involvement?

The timing of his rescue of Sansa does seem to indicate some prior knowledge but is that it?



He completely plotted it. He got Joffrey in with the jousting dwarves to frame Tyrion when he knew he'd send Tyrion into rage mode. He had Sansa unknowingly sneak in the poison, that Olenna Tyrell then took from her. Littlefinger was the mastermind behind the operation.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108376 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 1:49 pm to
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This seemed like a bitch move to get her involved like this. (Some insurance for Baelish should Sansa ever turn on him I guess)



Seriously. I don't see any reason why Olenna or Margeary couldn't have snuck in the poison rather than drag Sansa into it. Littlefinger used her in order to get more leverage off of her in case she ever decides to betray him.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

then he would have a character described as:
you put way too much time into that
Posted by Ash Williams
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Member since May 2009
18146 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

you put way too much time into that





not as much as you think

i've been watching and reading so much GoT i have to remember nobody actually talks like that in the real world
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52601 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:07 pm to
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i have to remember nobody actually talks like that in the real world

i read the chapter where Meryn calls Bronn an 'upjumped cutthroat' the other day. i think i worked that into office conversation five times
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

He completely plotted it.



I was thinking the hairnet came from Lady olenna but it was Dontos, so yeah, LF was conspiring with the Tyrell's all along.
Posted by TigerRad
Columbia, SC
Member since Jan 2007
5354 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

I don't see any reason why Olenna or Margeary couldn't have snuck in the poison rather than drag Sansa into it


I agree. The whole hairnet plan seems totally unnecessary other that just to rope Sansa into it for future insurance against her ratting them out.

No reason QoT or Marg couldnt have just dropped in a little poison from their pocket
Posted by MediTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
250 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I can't remember, could Jory have escaped?


Jaime killed Jory in Kings landing when he met Ned in the streets. This was when Ned broke his leg. Jory was awesome. I wish he could have lived.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 4:05 pm to
Replying to a post on page 2 lol
Posted by Ash Williams
South of i-10
Member since May 2009
18146 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

Replying to a post on page 2 lol



mans got a good bit of reading ahead of him

even GRRM would consider it a lot
Posted by 19
Flux Capacitor, Fluxing
Member since Nov 2007
33189 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 4:50 pm to
quote:

I agree. The whole hairnet plan seems totally unnecessary other that just to rope Sansa into it for future insurance against her ratting them out.


I can give a couple:

1) it gives QoT a scapegoat in case she needs one-
"I saw the Stark girl playing with that awful hairnet...especially the beads, I think"
2) it further points at Tyrion - if it ever needs to be proven- if his lady wife were in on it

And most important, ensures Sansa leaves with LF, trusting him or not.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112627 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 5:38 pm to
that's Ser Godry Farring
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 5:48 pm to
Yeah, LF has all of his bases covered and wants to keep Sansa in check. He could always use that as a way to blackmail her if she doesn't do what he wants.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
1863 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 7:07 pm to
quote:

"Ser Markis of House Rusell was a monster of a man. He had the coloring of a man whose ancestry could be traced to the Summer Islands which is likely where his House Sigil orignated as well. His Shield bore a grey hairless mammoth set on a crimson background, even though he had been fostered in the Death Valley of Dorn under the tutelage of Lord Les the Stutterer.

Ser Markis stood taller than all but the Mountain that Rides, but a more talented knight, you could never find. However, it was the knowledge of his own talent that led to his eventual downfall. After winning many lower tourneys his pride and fame became a poison to his work ethic and sense. He squandered all of his winnings on helms glistening with diamonds and clothing that would make even Ser Loras Tyrell blush. When his downfall started he turned to the Purple Milk of the Poppy to ease his struggles... which had the effect that one might expect.

After years of obscurity Ser Markis is attempting to return to the Tourney Circuit. However, with his current age and a belly that would make Ser Manderly blush, one must wonder if he'll ever have another chance at greatness..."


at Purple Milk of the Poppy
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108376 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Yeah, LF has all of his bases covered and wants to keep Sansa in check. He could always use that as a way to blackmail her if she doesn't do what he wants.


Honestly, I don't think it's that strong of blackmail. Everyone in the Seven Kingdoms thinks that she and Tyrion plotted it together and are on the run together to god knows where. Plus the Lannisters are about to fall. To where no one is going to give a damn.
Posted by BlackleafBaller
Member since Oct 2012
1863 posts
Posted on 5/7/13 at 7:19 pm to
With the exception of Cersei, I don't think any of the living Lannisters that could actually try to take action against Sansa even care. Jamie was so apathetic about the whole thing he was ready to (or did?) bang Cersei on their son's tomb or whatever and Tyrion couldn't care less about his nephew.
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