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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS
Posted on 4/17/13 at 10:40 pm to ladytiger118
Posted on 4/17/13 at 10:40 pm to ladytiger118
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Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:16 am to kingbob
What do you guys think the Damphair is doing in TWOW? I remember GRRM persuading the audience to pick that chapter at a reading and they went with Arianne. I kind of think he may be at Torrhen's square with Dagmer preparing to look for Theon.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 12:19 am to NIH
No idea but whatever it is, it has to be big. His "going into hiding" reeks (lol) of some type of back room plotting.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 5:41 am to BleedPurpleGold
Man, I know we all know about AWOIAF, but I found this one page that is a fantastic timeline for all of the major military events of the War of the Five Kings that is great for placing all of the major and secondary characters and showing where they are now. Great way to keep up:
War of the Five Kings
It doesn't deal with specific character's personal issues so much, but I think most of remember those broader strokes on our own. It's the details about how they got there and where they are physically at this point that can get fuzzy and jumbled.
Great having all of this on one simple page, but obviously also has the links to certain characters that you can click on for more specific backstory if needed (Edric Dayne, Thoros, Amory Lorch, Patrek Mallister
)
War of the Five Kings
It doesn't deal with specific character's personal issues so much, but I think most of remember those broader strokes on our own. It's the details about how they got there and where they are physically at this point that can get fuzzy and jumbled.
Great having all of this on one simple page, but obviously also has the links to certain characters that you can click on for more specific backstory if needed (Edric Dayne, Thoros, Amory Lorch, Patrek Mallister
) Posted on 4/18/13 at 5:44 am to saintsfan92612
ETA:Just want to make it clear that saintsfan92612 compiled this AMAZING list NOT ME.
He deserves ALL the credit, I just copied and pasted it with my favorites highlighted.
I am desperate for him to continue this massive undertaking and keep the list going through this entire EPIC THREAD
Highlighted the theories I believe/want to happen 
He deserves ALL the credit, I just copied and pasted it with my favorites highlighted.
I am desperate for him to continue this massive undertaking and keep the list going through this entire EPIC THREAD
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saintsfan92612
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Page 1-50+
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Hooded Man=Theon reflection of himself
Hooded Man=Benjen
Hooded Man=Blackfish
Hooded Man=Harwin
Hooded Man=Jon
Hooded Man=Mance (Have to add my favorite theory here from later pages MANCE=ARTHUR DAYNE
Weirwood paste is people
Benjen is alive and fighting a shadow war
Benjen is dead
Benjen is undead and leading the Others
R+L=J and Howland Reed is the only one alive who knows
Varys also knows R+L=J somehow
R+L=/=J
Jon=Azor Ahai and Dany=Nissa Nissa
Jon=Azor Ahai and Arya=Nissa Nissa (not Lannister-esque love, tho)
Rhaegar=Azor Ahai, Lyana=Nissa Nissa, and Jon=Lightbringer
Ned=shite swordsman
Aegon=Blackfyre=Mummer's Dragon
Aegon=Illyrio's son
Jon will end up with Val at the end
Jon is alive, but it was Melisandre who had him killed so he would be reborn as AA
Jon is dead but will warg into other animals a la Orell
Brienne will allow Jamie to kill her so that Jamie can live (trial by combat)
Jaime will allow Brienne to kill him so that she can live
Pretty Merris=Brienne?
Jamie will kill Cersei
Sandor will kill Robert Strong
Arya will wreck shite with Nymeria and her pack in tow
Dany will sail East to attack Westeros from the West
Blackfish will reveal Sansa's true identity at her wedding and will reveal Littlefingers role in her fathers death
Rickon is running a crew of Cannibals...lol
3 Dragon Riders=Jon, Tyrion and Dany
3 Dragon Riders=Aegon, Tyrion, and Dany
Bran will warg into Jon's dragon
Lady Dustin is anti-stark
Lady Dustin is pro-stark and just putting on a front
Varys=Targaryan
Varys=Blackfyre
Tryion=Targaryan
Bloodraven is the person/thing training Bran
Bloodraven warged into the Raven at castle black to save Jon from the wight and helped get him elected Lord Snow
Bloodraven is evil as hell and training Bran to become the Great Other that Melisandre foresaw
Bran was the one who warged into the Raven that got Bran elected
The lone wolf dies but the pack survives=the remaining starks will be reunited soon
Tysha is alive in Braavos and has Tyrion's daughter
CottonwasKing has an acreboyish attraction to Arya
The Others and the Children are fighting in league with each other against the Andal invaders
Rhaegar was planning to overthrow his father during/after Robert's Rebellion
Euron traded his dragon egg to the faceless man to kill Balon Greyjoy
Ned Stark did not kill Arthur Dayne-hence his son being nicknamed Ned...
Who wrote the letter to Jon? Theon, Ramsey, Roose, Mance, Jon writing to Mance who is acting as Jon, the 1989 Denver Broncos?
Hodor!!!
Too many baby swaps for mortals to comprehend
Page 50-84
Jaime gets his sword hand revived by Thoros; becomes a bad-arse duel wielder
Robb will be revived with Grey Wind's head...
Brienne is a descendent of Dunk
Hodor is a descendent of Dunk
Hodor is not a Dunk-kin, but he has Giant's blood
Nan was a wildling from beyond the wall-that's how she knows so much about the north
Nan and Dunk did a little wink wink nudge nudge
Gregor is headless
Gregor is a frankenstein with someone elses head
Gregor has Robb's head
Hooded Man=Hallis Mollen
Dany has the bloody flux and will die (Bluegrass' wish)
The wall will fall and the wildlings will flood the North (aren't they already on this side of the wall?)
Sam ends up as Maester of Nights Watch
Sam ends up as Maester in Kings Landing
Sam has the horn that can destroy the wall
Tons of speculation on who will rule what in the end
Sandor is the Valonqar-him killing Gregor causes Cersei's death
Sandor will beat Gregor but Cersei will escape somehow; Jaime will hunt her down and deliver the Kings justice
Littlefinger and Varys will ally to help Aegon
Littlefinger has the sword Blackfyre hidden in some tapestries
Jon=Night's King returned
Bran=Azor Ahai and will warg into a dragon (...ok)
R+L=J...but the R is Robert
Jaqen is in the Citadel and is trying to find out how to hatch the dragon egg he got from Euron
Highlighted the theories I believe/want to happen
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 6:39 am
Posted on 4/18/13 at 6:14 am to Tiger Voodoo
Holy frick! 
Posted on 4/18/13 at 6:29 am to CCT
Just want to make it clear that saintsfan92612 compiled that AMAZING list NOT ME.
He deserves ALL the credit, I just copied and pasted it with my favorites highlighted.
He deserves ALL the credit, I just copied and pasted it with my favorites highlighted.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 6:37 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Brienne will allow Jamie to kill her so that Jamie can live (trial by combat)
Yeah I get the impression this will happen to. This isn't strong evidence, but in Clash of Kings when Mel has Stannis burn the Seven and Davos watches we get this:
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The Maiden lay athwart the Warrior, her arms widespread as if to embrace him
So I get the impression either Brienne dies protecting Jaime or they both die together (and then maybe the Stoneheart brings back Jaime & his hand is able to be restored somewhat similar to Victarion...later goes on to kill Cersei)
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:31 am to saintsfan92612
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Euron traded his dragon egg to the faceless man to kill Balon Greyjoy
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Littlefinger has the sword Blackfyre hidden in some tapestries
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Jaqen is in the Citadel and is trying to find out how to hatch the dragon egg he got from Euron
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Hooded Man=Hallis Mollen
I don't remember any of that....
If it is all speculation, how did you come up with those?
I guess I don't remember much of the Greyjoy stuff.
Reread (Wiki) Time
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:47 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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I don't remember any of that....
If it is all speculation, how did you come up with those?
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Euron traded his dragon egg to the faceless man to kill Balon Greyjoy
Jaqen is in the Citadel and is trying to find out how to hatch the dragon egg he got from Euron
These two are obviously connected.
The timing of Euron's reappearance in The Iron Islands right around the same time as Balon's suspicious death leads many to believe that Euron may have paid a faceless man to kill Balon.
Euron mentions that in his travels he came into possession of a dragon egg, but that he threw it into the sea for some unknown reason.
Many believe that Euron actually traded the egg to a Faceless Man to pull off the assassination, which is why he knew exactly when to return to Pyke. This was not Jaquen necessarily, but someone from his brotherhood, which now possesses the egg and is trying to find a way to hatch it.
This is further backed up by the fact that Jaquen is almost certainly The Alchemist that kills Pate in Oldtown after getting a mysterious key from the Citadel in the Prologue chapter of A Feast for Crows.
I missed that on my read and it was pointed out to me in this thread to mind-blowing effect.
The description of the face that Jaquen transforms to when he leaves Arya is identical to the description of The Alchemist that tricks Pate into stealing this key which can open any door in The Citadel for him and then kills him.
Therefore, it makes sense that The Faceless Men somehow came into possession of a dragon egg (Euron), and are now trying to find the secrets to hatching them at The Citadel (key).
Also, after Sam meets with Archmaester Marwyn at The Citadel, who is described as the only Archmaester that believes that the dragons have been reborn and also taught Mirri Maz Duur many things, Sam encounters Pate, who we know to be dead.
Marwyn leaves to try to meet up with Dany and tells Sam to finish his studies and get back to The Wall as soon as possible. "Pate", likely Jaquen, may be trying to distract or delay Sam for some reason.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 9:14 am
Posted on 4/18/13 at 8:50 am to Tiger Voodoo
Definitely need to reread Euron's parts. I don't think he gets enough theories. His mysterious trip and bringing back the horn.
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:01 am to Tiger Voodoo
quote:i really want to know more about this place. i still think they conspired against the Targs to weed out their dragons and i think they created greyscale to kill off/prevent the return of dragons. i also think greyscale turns dragons to stone (like on Dragonstone) and humans just contract a weaker form of it. we know it kills adult humans but not children.
The Citadel
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:02 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
quote:it makes me wonder if the ruins of Valyria are really cursed
His mysterious trip and bringing back the horn.
This post was edited on 4/18/13 at 9:03 am
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:16 am to Tiger Voodoo
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The timing of Euron's reappearance in The Iron Islands right around the same time as Balon's suspicious death leads many to believe that Euron may have paid a faceless man to kill Balon.
In one of the Arya chapters the old dwarf lady tells:
“I dreamt I saw a shadow with a burning heart butchering a golden stag. I dreamt of a man without a face, waiting on a bridge that swayed and swung. On his shoulder perched a drowned crow with seaweed hanging from his wings. I dreamt of a roaring river and a woman that was a fish. Dead she drifted, with red tears on her cheeks. All this I dreamt, and more.”
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:21 am to BloodSweat&Beers
Great find
Renly/Stannis/Melisandre
Balon/Faceless Man
Catelyn
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"I dreamt I saw a shadow with a burning heart butchering a golden stag"
Renly/Stannis/Melisandre
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I dreamt of a man without a face, waiting on a bridge that swayed and swung. On his shoulder perched a drowned crow with seaweed hanging from his wings.
Balon/Faceless Man
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I dreamt of a roaring river and a woman that was a fish. Dead she drifted, with red tears on her cheeks.
Catelyn
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:26 am to Hu_Flung_Pu
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Definitely need to reread Euron's parts. I don't think he gets enough theories. His mysterious trip and bringing back the horn.
Yeah, the fact that he ripped out the tongues of everyone on his crew is pretty damn intriguing.
What exactly could they have seen that he did he not want them talking about??
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:30 am to Tiger Voodoo
Saintsfan's list is now in the OP
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:33 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Yeah, the fact that he ripped out the tongues of everyone on his crew is pretty damn intriguing.
What exactly could they have seen that he did he not want them talking about??
Euron probably took a particularly nasty wench for a salt wife and regretted it so he didnt want anyone talking about it
in fact, this is definitely it
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:44 am to Tiger Voodoo
quote:Fight Club
What exactly could they have seen that he did he not want them talking about??
Posted on 4/18/13 at 9:47 am to manwich
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manwich
Congrats, bro. You posted the most on this board last week!!!
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