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re: Crackpot ASOIAF Theories SPOILERS

Posted on 2/24/13 at 3:25 pm to
Posted by MTB
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Posted on 2/24/13 at 3:25 pm to
need to check that out, thanks for the heads-up Carson
Posted by 19
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 9:33 am to
Seeing Hoster Tully's Viking Funeral in the trailer reminded me...
Why is Edmure such a wuss?
No, really - was thinking how The Blackfish bailed him out with the flaming arrow...then where is Brynden ?

I had forgotten how he fought with Selmy during Nine-Penny Kings...

Does he show up at Dany's camp before or after she manages to finally cross the sea?
Talk about a dynamic duo, those two together again
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 12:58 pm to
just got through reading the books.

debating on reading them again now or give it a little while. looking forward to reading this thread now though

couple of questions for now, jon snow im assuming is still alive? maybe raised by the red woman in the upcoming books

and wtf is renly baratheon doing as a gay dude in the tv series??? frick that shite
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:01 pm to
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maybe raised by the red woman in the upcoming books




I think that's everyone's guess.



quote:

and wtf is renly baratheon doing as a gay dude in the tv series??? frick that shite



He was very clearly gay in the books.
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 1:03 pm to
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and wtf is renly baratheon doing as a gay dude in the tv series??? frick that shite

Cause he is. I mean he named his personal guard the Rainbow Guard for crying out loud.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:01 pm to
Did you catch that Griff is also a butt pirate? I thought Renly was more obvious. First read I thought John Con had a no-homo man crush on Rhaegar, but after reading again...
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:06 pm to
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Did you catch that Griff is also a butt pirate? I thought Renly was more obvious. First read I thought John Con had a no-homo man crush on Rhaegar, but after reading again...


Same here
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:06 pm to
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Did you catch that Griff is also a butt pirate? I thought Renly was more obvious. First read I thought John Con had a no-homo man crush on Rhaegar, but after reading again...


Indeed. Rhaegar was st8 pimpin'
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:06 pm to
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Cause he is. I mean he named his personal guard the Rainbow Guard for crying out loud.

Not saying he was or wasn't. Just never thought of him that way till I saw it on the tv series. But I mean..

A. He was married
B. Didn't realize the rainbow was a gay pride symbol in westeros

I can see the knight of flowers being gay though, but admit never thought of him as gay till the tv series either.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

and wtf is renly baratheon doing as a gay dude in the tv series??? frick that shite



It wasn't exactly subtle in the books. Rainbow Guard? Margaery's hymen intact? Come on.
This post was edited on 2/25/13 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:16 pm to
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A. He was married
B. Didn't realize the rainbow was a gay pride symbol in westeros

A. Doesn't mean he's magically not gay. There's another character in the Vale that's rumored to be gay who was looking to marry Lysa.
B. Don't think Martin intended that either, but it is still funny.

I forget where, but somebody is quoted as talking about Loras being Renly's little rose.

This brings up another question. Is Blackfish gay? Why do you think he never married?
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:19 pm to
When I re-read the books with this gayness in mind, I'm sure it will be more obvious. Didn't occur to me to look for it the first read through.
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 2:39 pm to
When Jaime said this to Loras, it pretty much confirmed it:

"I'll stick my sword in places even Renly couldn't find."
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

When Jaime said this to Loras, it pretty much confirmed it:

"I'll stick my sword in places even Renly couldn't find."

i'm just saying if the book would of done it like the tv series, where renly and loras are sitting in a bath tub with loras shaving renlys chest then loras proceeds to suck renly off, it would of left no doubt.

as it stands when loras knelt to suck renly off, I was like 'WTF IS THIS shite!?!?'
Posted by lsuchip30
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 4:52 pm to
There were a few other comments about Renly along the way also. I think that Stannis says something like Margery definitely not being deflowered if she is married to Renly. Jamie make a few comments as well.
I was wondering the same think about Brynden Tully. Edmure and Catelyn have a conversation about him not marrying and saying something like marriage wasn't ever a real possibility for him.
Posted by lsuchip30
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Posted on 2/25/13 at 4:56 pm to
Question for those who have read all of the books: whatever happened to the two knights that Jaime allowed to leave Riverrun and go to the wall? I just finished re-reading through AFfC and don't remember these two at any point after. One was Ser Robyn Ryger and I'm not sure who the other was.
Posted by weaglebeagle
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 8:45 am to
Last time they were mentioned Raff the Sweetling was taking them to Maidenpool. No mention after that.

Oh and you guys can all foad for saying those things about the blackfish. I refuse to believe it.
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 8:45 am
Posted by DestrehanTiger
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:04 am to
quote:

Question for those who have read all of the books: whatever happened to the two knights that Jaime allowed to leave Riverrun and go to the wall? I just finished re-reading through AFfC and don't remember these two at any point after. One was Ser Robyn Ryger and I'm not sure who the other was.


It really is amazing how many characters there are in this story and how many events are open ended. I've read the books twice and I'm completely blanking on the characters you are asking about.
Posted by ornagestorm
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:35 am to
If I remember right, it is the two guys that he sends with Raff the Sweetling, he tells Raff to make sure they make it there. I do not recall reading anything more about them after that though.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 2/26/13 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Question for those who have read all of the books: whatever happened to the two knights that Jaime allowed to leave Riverrun and go to the wall? I just finished re-reading through AFfC and don't remember these two at any point after. One was Ser Robyn Ryger and I'm not sure who the other was.


Was it the Royce kid? Ryger n Royce I get mixed up- one was steward and the other Captain of the guard at RR. I think.

Eta: I say kid cuz I had impression he was waymar (Wymar?) 's younger brother
This post was edited on 2/26/13 at 9:41 am
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