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Long putter rule decision could come soon...
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:25 pm
I know there was a lengthy discussion about this yesterday during the British Open, but a new article was written today on the issue of anchored putters.
My stance:
And my favorite excerpt from the article from Open Champion Ernie Els, made last year:
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LYTHAM ST. ANNES, England (AP) -- One day after Ernie Els won the British Open to become the third major champion using a belly putter, the Royal & Ancient said long putters were "firmly back on the radar" and that a decision could come soon on whether players can keep using them. R&A chief executive Peter Dawson said discussions with the U.S. Golf Association about longer putters anchored to the body began before Els holed a 15-foot birdie putt on the 18th hole to win the claret jug at age 42.
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"We appreciate that there is much speculation about this and that we need to clarify the position as soon as possible," Dawson said Monday. "And I think you're going to see us saying something about it one way or the other in a few months, rather than years." But he made clear that the R&A and USGA, which set the rules for golf around the world, have not decided whether to ban them. "This decision has not been taken," he said. "Please don't think that it has."
My stance:
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The objection Dawson has heard the most is that if players can't putt with a conventional club, why should they have a crutch to compete with those who can.
And my favorite excerpt from the article from Open Champion Ernie Els, made last year:
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"As long as it's legal, I'll keep cheating like the rest of them," Els said in October
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:28 pm to medtiger
Ernie is such a frickhead
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:31 pm to Mullen3:16
If all the players have the option of using a belly putter, then they should just use it.
Why would they outlaw it? It isn't a magic wand.
Why would they outlaw it? It isn't a magic wand.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:38 pm to bobbyray21
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If all the players have the option of using a belly putter, then they should just use it
Well the issue people have is the belly putter helps guys who have an issue with keeping their hands steady on putts with normal putters. The grounded putter essentially eliminates the hands from the putt. So guys who are already are very skilled at keeping their hands steady and consistent don't benefit from a grounded or belly putter.
I agree with Ernie though, as long as it's legal, I'd use it if it helped me
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:47 pm to medtiger
I am pretty sure that it will be outlawed and that it total BS - IMHO
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:48 pm to bobbyray21
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Why would they outlaw it? It isn't a magic wand.
adam scott's choking arse is proof of this
Posted on 7/23/12 at 7:50 pm to Tiger1242
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Well the issue people have is the belly putter helps guys who have an issue with keeping their hands steady on putts with normal putters. The grounded putter essentially eliminates the hands from the putt. So guys who are already are very skilled at keeping their hands steady and consistent don't benefit from a grounded or belly putter.
I agree with Ernie though, as long as it's legal, I'd use it if it helped me
Eh, I think they should continue to allow it.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:27 pm to Cosmo
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adam scott's choking arse is proof of this
That's a long putter not a belly putter.
Edit: Wait, I thought the decision going to Be decided upon was just for belly putters. Actually jamming the putter in to your body. Not against long putters that only use the hands/arms.
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:31 pm to medtiger
I'm torn on the issue. On one hand I think it has turned some "shaky" putters into very reliable putters inside of 8'. On the other hand, I couldn't putt with one of those things to save my life.
It's definitely an advantage for some, but not all. However, the same could be said for any particular club. I wouldn't be surprised either way it was ruled.
It's definitely an advantage for some, but not all. However, the same could be said for any particular club. I wouldn't be surprised either way it was ruled.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:59 pm to mytigger
Pretty sure that Adam Scott 'locks' the long putter against his chest. This is the action that allows for the pendulum motion to eliminate the hands.
I say get rid of the long putters.
While they're at it, make the hole bigger!
I say get rid of the long putters.
While they're at it, make the hole bigger!
Posted on 7/23/12 at 9:00 pm to mytigger
Long putters and adjustable weight drivers should not be allowed in the PGA regular tour. If you can't consistently make 6 ft putts due to nerves and you need to anchor it..then practice more. If you can't shape the shot the way you need to...then you practice more. amateurs...what ever makes the game more enjoyable/faster.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 9:04 pm to medtiger
Why did they outlaw the croquet style that Sam Snead used?
Posted on 7/23/12 at 9:13 pm to Honcho C McGregor
I would be against a rule that limits the length of the putter. I think it would be ridiculous to have a rule stating that the putter has to be the shortest club in your bag. The issue here, IMO, is anchoring the putter, or any club for that matter, to your body. Obviously, not everyone agrees that this is an issue that needs to be addressed.
I also agree that amateurs and pros should have separate rule sets.
I also agree that amateurs and pros should have separate rule sets.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 9:22 pm to mytigger
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the same could be said for any particular club.
Threeputt brought this up yesterday, but I disagreed with the premise. He used the blade vs cavity back irons as an example. The issue I had with that was that the stroke is plaed on the ball the same way with both clubs. Here's a quote from the article I linked that talks about how they're looking at this as an issue pertaining to the rules of golf not rules of equipment.
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Dawson said the discussion with the governing bodies has switched from an equipment issue to a rules issue. "The initial determination has been that we are examining the subject from a method of stroke standpoint rather than length of putter standpoint, and that takes it into the area of the rules of play, the rules of golf, rather than the rules of equipment," he said.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 9:34 pm to Tiger1242
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Well the issue people have is the belly putter helps guys who have an issue with keeping their hands steady on putts with normal putters. The grounded putter essentially eliminates the hands from the putt. So guys who are already are very skilled at keeping their hands steady and consistent don't benefit from a grounded or belly putter.
Some people have more flexibility in their back, consequently allowing them to take longer backswings and generate more club head speed. Are we gonna make everyone use the same type shaft on their drivers to equalize that ?
Posted on 7/23/12 at 9:37 pm to Honcho C McGregor
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Long putters and adjustable weight drivers should not be allowed in the PGA regular tour.
If you don't want players carving up most courses and making you change them from a par 72 to a 70; you've got to change the drivers and golf balls. Take away adjustable drivers, limit the cc's to 400 or so and have regulations on shafts. Balls IMO is the biggest difference though. You shouldn't be able to chip out of the ruff to a pin that is barely on the green on a downslope, and land it short of the hole. I'm 26 so I'm not some old timer griping I just think they let ball regulations get out of hand. If they did just a few things, courses that were once a test won't be -24 under winners anymore and you wouldn't have idiots like Pete Dye designing courses with a bunch of trick holes to make it difficult.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 10:07 pm to Tiger1242
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Well the issue people have is the belly putter helps guys who have an issue with keeping their hands steady on putts with normal putters. The grounded putter essentially eliminates the hands from the putt. So guys who are already are very skilled at keeping their hands steady and consistent don't benefit from a grounded or belly putter.
i guess they should outlaw Rocketballz too then. Since the players that already hit the ball long dont get as much of a benefit from the clubs...
Posted on 7/23/12 at 10:29 pm to medtiger
This is going To happen. It needs to happen,anchoring the butt to the body should be illegal. Length is not the issue.SSS....
Posted on 7/23/12 at 10:39 pm to redfish99
The guy that bogeyed the last four holes to lose the same tournament kinda blows up their argument.
Posted on 7/23/12 at 11:32 pm to medtiger
Isn't your equipment supposed to help you play better?
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