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Where did bond go wrong?
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:38 pm
I love the new Craig movies but I've tried watching the bond movies on encore and here is my (sometimes poor) opinion
Connery - I love every one of these movies and they really are some of the best in the series
Moore - the opposite. I fricking hate every one of these. Loved them as a child but now they are almost unwatchable as an adult. I feel like this is where the franchise really started going downhill.
Dalton - honestly, never seen them
Brosnan - here is where I felt like the bond franchise showed promise again. I loved goldeneye and tomorrow never dies was good for me though I know alot of people hate this one. The world is not enough - I really never liked this one but nowhere near as bad as Die Another Day- gross. Not one good quality about this film. I actually had to turn this one off when it came out on DVD, and that was nine years ago. I doubt I would be able to stomach 30 minutes of this one today. I think it is single handedly responsible for the much needed reboot of a nearly 50 year old franchise, so in some way I'm glad they made it
Connery - I love every one of these movies and they really are some of the best in the series
Moore - the opposite. I fricking hate every one of these. Loved them as a child but now they are almost unwatchable as an adult. I feel like this is where the franchise really started going downhill.
Dalton - honestly, never seen them
Brosnan - here is where I felt like the bond franchise showed promise again. I loved goldeneye and tomorrow never dies was good for me though I know alot of people hate this one. The world is not enough - I really never liked this one but nowhere near as bad as Die Another Day- gross. Not one good quality about this film. I actually had to turn this one off when it came out on DVD, and that was nine years ago. I doubt I would be able to stomach 30 minutes of this one today. I think it is single handedly responsible for the much needed reboot of a nearly 50 year old franchise, so in some way I'm glad they made it
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 12:42 pm
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Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:43 pm to CGB Spender
quote:
Where did bond go wrong?
quote:Here. Not with the actor, but the way they changed his character into an action hero.
Brosnan
quote:The Living Daylights was good.
Dalton
quote:I don't get the Moore hate. For Your Eyes Only, The Spy Who Loved Me, and Man With the Golden Gun are good movies. They weren't all masterpieces but neither was Thunderball.
Moore - the opposite. I fricking hate every one of these.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:44 pm to CGB Spender
You seem to have answered your own question? 
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:45 pm to alajones
Goldeneye was my first and favorite bond movie.... Never cared much for the others
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:47 pm to alajones
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Here. Not with the actor, but the way they changed his character into an action hero.
Agree and disagree, I remember walking out of goldeneye with a feeling similar to that of casino royale, but the final two brosnan films were definitely the nail in the coffin
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:48 pm to theunknownknight
No because I'm not sure if Moore ruined it or brosnan even though brosnan had one of the best entries and definitely the worst
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:53 pm to CGB Spender
Bond went wrong when the producers started turning Bond into a superhero with repeated storylines. They followed the same Bond formula for years and after a while it just got stale. Instead of improving the storylines, they simply ramped up the gadgets and stunts. In the end, Bond under Brosnan became a caricature of himself and the movies just one big cliche.
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:55 pm to alajones
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I don't get the Moore hate. For Your Eyes Only, The Spy Who Loved Me, and Man With the Golden Gun are good movies. They weren't all masterpieces but neither was Thunderball
I agree. My problem with Moore, though, is that he was too old. He was 46 when he started and almost 60 when he finished! He is older than Connery.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 12:55 pm to CGB Spender
Bond's always been... Bond.
They'll produce a few great films, and a few shitty ones. It's a cycle, I guess you could say.
They'll produce a few great films, and a few shitty ones. It's a cycle, I guess you could say.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 1:03 pm to CGB Spender
quote:I should have clarified about Goldeneye. It was a solid Bond movie after an eternity without Bond.
Agree and disagree, I remember walking out of goldeneye with a feeling similar to that of casino royale,
Posted on 7/16/12 at 1:04 pm to LSUPERMAN
quote:Definitely, he looked pretty out of place in the early 80's movies.
My problem with Moore, though, is that he was too old. He was 46 when he started and almost 60 when he finished! He is older than Connery.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 1:06 pm to alajones
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Definitely, he looked pretty out of place in the early 80's movies.
I'd say so....
Posted on 7/16/12 at 1:18 pm to CGB Spender
quote:
Where did bond go wrong?
August 12, 1964, Canterbury
Ian Fleming, Died
I've honestly never really liked a single Bond movie that wasn't based off of a Fleming Novel.
Mostly the Brosnan and now Craig movies. Especially Craig...he's a better Bond than Brosnan and could be great...but they've turned him and his movies into Jason Bourne. Yawn.
There's nothing special about Bond anymore. Just rewatch the old Connery ones. We'll always have those.
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 7/16/12 at 1:21 pm to CGB Spender
1967 for starters
Posted on 7/16/12 at 1:33 pm to manwich
In my opinion Connery was by far the best and Moore was second for one simple reason...they brought humor and cockiness to the role. I realize Bond was a darker character in the books but Connery made Bond a movie star and that is the way I wish to see him played. Since Dalton took over the role I honestly cannot remember seeing anyone who has played bond since smiling even once. All of the new Bond's have been far too serious and have ruined the character in my opinion. I wan't to see a suave and cocky bond who smiles while smacking beautiful women on the arse and makes funny smart arse comments to would be killers.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 1:39 pm to DanTiger
That's a good point. Brosnan did a little, but it is really hard to imagine Craig ever paying that type of character.
Posted on 7/16/12 at 1:43 pm to CGB Spender
If everybody disses the Moore Bond movies then I don't really see how the franchise has gone wrong. Sounds like it's gotten better. This coming from a non-bond fan. I've never seen a single bond movie before the Brosnan ones and of the one's I have seen, I don't really like how they are just simple action movies IMO. Like somebody else said, it's like watching a bad Jason Bourne Movie. Sounds like I might like the old ones more.
This post was edited on 7/16/12 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 7/16/12 at 2:08 pm to beaverfever
Die Another Day /Thread
Posted on 7/16/12 at 2:45 pm to CGB Spender
quote:
Where did bond go wrong?
Posted on 7/16/12 at 2:54 pm to alajones
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Brosnan did a little, but it is really hard to imagine Craig ever paying that type of character.
I cannot recall Brosnan ever smiling as bond and if he did I feel certain it was a forced smile and not the cocky smart arse smile of Connery or even Moore. Craig is not a good Bond in my opinion although he does follow the personality of the book character very closely.
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