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President Obama, amid charges of waging class warfare, is expected to push Monday for a tax hike on families earning more than $250,000 -- and an extension of the Bush-era tax rates for families making less than that.


Another tax hike, on top of the 22 obamacare tax hikes, but the media will spin it as just an extension of the Bush tax cuts, and will ignore the fact that they are increasing taxes.

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Zach
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Well, at least he's being honest. His response to the charge of waging class warfare is "Yep."





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Vote the mofo out





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Pelosi says the 3.6% tax cut from the Bush era should only be repealed below $1 million income.

I am guessing her compromise will win the day.

McConnell want all cuts to stay another year.
Obama wants all cuts to stay for people making less than $250K.
Pelosi wants cuts only for those under $1 million.







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Pelosi says the 3.6% tax cut from the Bush era should only be repealed below $1 million income



If true.. the Republicans should jump at it. Its an actual compromise worth reaching in today's climate.






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Joe Joe Joe
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I am guessing her compromise will win the day.

There isn't a chance in the world that the President, after making this public, decides to accept the Minority Leader of the House's position instead.

Not a single chance. Do you realize how politically stupid that would make him look?
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If true.. the Republicans should jump at it. Its an actual compromise worth reaching in today's climate.

The Republicans shouldn't be grasping for compromise from the House Minority Leader who has absolutely no influence in this entire process. Remind me how many times Boehner and Cantor were consulted by Pelosi?

If this is an offer from Reid and the Senate, that's one thing. But truth be told, I couldn't give two f*cks what Nancy Pelosi thinks or wants, because she is of absolutely zero political significance right now.



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Pelosi says the 3.6% tax cut from the Bush era should only be repealed below $1 million income

There seems to be democratic support for the million dollar line in the senate as well.






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He's speaking now saying the American people are on his side in regard to raising taxes on those making +$250k....98% of Americans make less than $250k? That's what he says, doesn't sound right...





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The Republicans shouldn't be grasping for compromise from the House Minority Leader who has absolutely no influence in this entire process. Remind me how many times Boehner and Cantor were consulted by Pelosi?

If this is an offer from Reid and the Senate, that's one thing. But truth be told, I couldn't give two f*cks what Nancy Pelosi thinks or wants, because she is of absolutely zero consequence right now.



Not sure if Reid has come out publicly but there seems to be support for the million dollar number. Pelosi can still get votes and as minority leader she is the voice of dems in the House.

The republicans absolutely must start compromising on certain issues, this being one. IT takes these issues of the plate and allows them to take the Dems to task on so many more.






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Pelosi can still get votes and as minority leader she is the voice of dems in the House.


Over the past two years, Pelosi has had very little control over her caucus. They aren't following her lead as much as Republicans followed Boehner's. Besides, her own members aren't going to be particularly concerned with abiding by Pelosi's wishes with an election looming.

Her ability to deliver votes is of very little significance, because she has shown an inability to do so for the past two years. If there is anyone to look to, it's Hoyer, not Pelosi. So, she might be the voice of Democrats in the House, but they quite simply do not matter in this process.
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The republicans absolutely must start compromising on certain issues, this being one.

Why should they compromise on something that will raise taxes on the middle class in one year? That's all he's proposing: a one-year extension. Then what? We re-fight this battle? If Obama were so concerned with actual reform, he would have either done so when he had Democratic majorities or he would've followed Simpson-Bowles.

All this is simply lip service. Republicans should recognize such.



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Not looking for spin here when I ask what is the purpose of the tax hike? What is Obama stating as the reasoning? Does the country have a revenue problem?





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Why should they compromise on something that will raise taxes on the middle class in one year? That's all he's proposing: a one-year extension. Then what? We re-fight this battle? If Obama were so concerned with actual reform, he would have either done so when he had Democratic majorities or he would've followed Simpson-Bowles.

All this is simply lip service. Republicans should recognize such.



This should simply be about getting rid of this issue for this election cycle. If the republicans can take the White House they will have much more room to attack this head on and own it. The democrats will continue to frame this issue as the Republicans catering to the rich unless the issue is resolved and signed by the President. While they will continue to trot out that narrative, the counter narrative is easy and allows them to bring everything full circle on hammering away on the economy. Which doesn't matter unless they can come up with some actual concrete ideas to boost the economy.






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Joe Joe Joe
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Not looking for spin here when I ask what is the purpose of the tax hike? What is Obama stating as the reasoning? Does the country have a revenue problem?

From what I can tell, to pay down the debt and deficit is his most obvious claim.

Second, it should be noted: this isn't a tax cut. Either rates stay the same or taxes increase. But there is no cut.
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This should simply be about getting rid of this issue for this election cycle. If the republicans can take the White House they will have much more room to attack this head on and own it.

So you want the Republicans to alienate its base by raising taxes just so they can claim they will subsequently lower taxes if they get elected? That's not a winning strategy.

The base doesn't want tax increase on anything, regardless of whether that person is a millionaire or billionaire. That cuts directly against Republican ideology.



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What Republicans should do is this: propose an even lower tax rate for those making under $250,000 a year.

Then they legitimately claim they've offered a tax cut that the Senate Democrats and Obama refuse to move on because they are more interested in playing class warfare and winning elections.






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.98% of Americans make less than $250k? That's what he says, doesn't sound right...


It is right.






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Another tax hike, on top of the 22 obamacare tax hikes, but the media will spin it as just an extension of the Bush tax cuts, and will ignore the fact that they are increasing taxes.


Raising taxes on the 250K per year or more crowd. If you make less than that, nothing will change.

Obama wants to raise taxes during a recession.






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So you want the Republicans to alienate its base by raising taxes just so they can claim they will subsequently lower taxes if they get elected? That's not a winning strategy.

The base doesn't want tax increase on anything, regardless of whether that person is a millionaire or billionaire. That cuts directly against Republican ideology.


The base will not win this election..its the independent voter that will decide this. They will turn off voters if they aren't willing to raise taxes by 3.5% on those making over a million dollars, if offered. The average voter may not view 250k as rich but 1 million is a different category all together.

That doesn't mean they cant horse trade in return for cuts of some sort. Simply saying no even with the other sides appearance of compromise will lose this election IMO. The White house race is way to tied to the actions of congress and Romney and the Rep must show some since of willingness to work with the dems. Polls continue to show that people are fed up with congress and there unwillingness to work together.






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Raising taxes on the 250K per year or more crowd. If you make less than that, nothing will change.

Obama wants to raise taxes during a recession.


I've never worked for a poor man....






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Joe Joe Joe
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Again, it's worth repeating...

These aren't tax cuts. Either the rates stay the same or taxes increase on some people. No one is receiving a tax cut.






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