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Hoodoo Man 
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| Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/2/12 at 2:26 pm)
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Ginsberg calls the report “yet more evidence of how misguided and irresponsible Commissioner Goodell has been in handling this issue.”
The lawyer then raises three alleged deficiencies regarding the leaked ledger evidence: (1) the information identifies no specific players who were injured or paid; (2) statistics from the 2009 game between the Saints and the Panthers, for which three $1,000 payments allegedly were made, “show that opposing defensive players, not offensive players, were the brunt of any physical plays”; and (3) the payments made, regardless of the name applied, reflected “good, clean, legal plays, and . . . any dirty or penalized play resulted in fines to players, not awards.”
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Ginsberg then offers a general comment on Vilma’s role in the alleged bounty program: “The truth is that Jonathan Vilma gave no money, incentive or encouragement ever — not at any time in his eight-year career — to injure or knock out of any game any player with a dirty or unsportsmanlike hit. The facts are plain and simple. During the three seasons in question, Jonathan Vilma was one of the least penalized players not only on the Saints but in the NFL. There is not one instance in which Jonathan Vilma set out to injure a player or gave any incentive to another player to injure an opposing player.”
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Bduhon55 
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/2/12 at 2:30 pm to Hoodoo Man)
which is it responsible or irresponsible?
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Hoodoo Man
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/2/12 at 2:31 pm to Bduhon55)
Responsibly misguided.
And screw you.
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/2/12 at 2:41 pm to Hoodoo Man)
No Hard Feelings..shake on it friend....
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/2/12 at 8:52 pm to Hoodoo Man)
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Ginsberg then offers a general comment on Vilma’s role in the alleged bounty program: “The truth is that Jonathan Vilma gave no money, incentive or encouragement ever — not at any time in his eight-year career — to injure or knock out of any game any player with a dirty or unsportsmanlike hit. The facts are plain and simple. During the three seasons in question, Jonathan Vilma was one of the least penalized players not only on the Saints but in the NFL. There is not one instance in which Jonathan Vilma set out to injure a player or gave any incentive to another player to injure an opposing player.”
Notice the lawyer doesn't say he never received money...
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/3/12 at 11:40 am to Gugich22)
I'm not up to starting another Bountygate thread so HERE is a take from Phil Anselmo:
“The f—ing league has handed out a penalty without having a case,” the singer said. “It’s very interesting that it comes at a time when the NFL is being sued by multiple f—ing plaintiffs about and former players dealing with concussion related things, memory loss and [the recently deceased] Junior Seau. It doesn’t help at all. The Saints are good for the city; we take pride even when we were the biggest f—ng losers, we found pride in that.”
In addition to his informed opinion on the matter, Anselmo knows some of the players on a personal level, so he sees how they are affected by this situation off the field. He revealed, “I am friends with a lot of defensive players and linebackers and I’ve met Jonathan Vilma, who is being crucified. He is a fantastic individual. I think the league is reaching here. The NFL is leaving themselves wide f—ing open that a battle I don’t think they even want.”
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Slapouttiger
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:41 pm to blueslover)
My opinion on this matter is useless. But Goodell has to try to make the NFL safer. That's his legacy. Vilma is losing a years pay for his role in the bounty scandal and is appealing. All other saint coaches took their sentences and moved on with it. Vilma is embarrased and trying to save face. I think he should apologize to Goodell. IMO Goodell has the goods, but Vilma is just spinning it to make Goodell look like a idiot. My advice to Vilma is to be a man and except responsability for your actions
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JasonL79
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:52 pm to Slapouttiger)
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but Vilma is just spinning it to make Goodell look like a idiot
How has Goodell made Vilma look like an idiot?
The info leaked the other day had to be corrected and still didn't show that he was guilty of pay for injury.
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/3/12 at 12:54 pm to blueslover)
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I'm not up to starting another Bountygate thread so HERE is a take from Phil Anselmo:
after reading that I feel like Saints talk should take on the non saints fans on TD.com in one of these LINK
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Jayson78
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:10 pm to St Augustine)
<------ is hiding under the bed now... 
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:22 pm to Slapouttiger)
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IMO Goodell has the goods, but Vilma is just spinning it to make Goodell look like a idiot.
Then Goodell should show the goods and stop helping Vilma make him look like an idiot
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Slapouttiger
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:31 pm to jacks40)
I think Vilma is the villan here not Goodell.
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/3/12 at 1:35 pm to Slapouttiger)
Thats what you get for thinking
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| re: Vilma's Lawyer Calls Goodell Misguided and Irresponsible (Posted on 6/4/12 at 5:28 pm to Slapouttiger)
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I think Vilma is the villan here not Goodell.
Screw that
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