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Favorites for next seasons Champions League

Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:42 pm
Posted by BobLoblaw
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Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:42 pm
So rather than ask "how do you rate the best teams in Europe" I figured this would be a better way to do it.

We can't all agree on whose best but we can (maybe) agree on who will be considered favorites for the tournament that decides who the best team in Europe is. Movement over the summer makes this list subject to change but I want to get everyone's opinion bearing in mind the seasons these clubs have just had and their potential to improve next year. Make sense?

Rate who you think will be the favorites, no need to include odds or anything like that but I think it makes sense to do it in tiers.

Real Madrid
Barcelona

Man City
Bayern Munich
Man U

Dortmund
Milan
Arsenal

Juve
Valencia
PSG
Chelsea/Spurs
Porto
This post was edited on 5/13/12 at 4:15 pm
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:46 pm to
I might have to put Dortmund in tier 2.
Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
2324 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:49 pm to
I considered it but they will be given a low seed again next year like they were this year because of their low uefa coefficient. They could very well have a very tough group again or be without several of their star players. Also there's a chance Klopp could move on.
Posted by S
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Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:50 pm to
real
bayern
barca
man united
man city
This post was edited on 5/13/12 at 3:52 pm
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 3:54 pm to
quote:


Man City
Bayern Munich
Man U

Dortmund
Milan
Arsenal



It really depends on the transfers that happen this summer.. this seems a little reactionary rather than predictive.

I can see a distinct possibility of Dortmund and Arsenal on even terms with your tier 2 next season.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/13/12 at 4:00 pm to
Yeah if PSG keeps spending money I could see them getting out of the group stages depending on the draw.
Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
2324 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 4:01 pm to
Well obviously everything that happens this summer will change this.

Basically my idea was that now that most of the European leagues are finished or are winding up and the champions league spots are set (or atleast the top teams have officially qualified) this would be an interesting way of asking what are the best teams in Europe. Asking that question though is subjective, what makes a team "the best" and we'd have dandylion say it has to be a la liga team because of style and then others would say an epl team because of competition but then others would say "nobody watches serie a or bundesliga on here but me and bayern is the best".

We can't all agree on whose best but we can agree on who will be considered favorites for the tournament that decides who the best team in Europe is. Movement over the summer makes this list subject to change but I want to get everyone's opinion bearing in mind the seasons these clubs have just had and their potential to improve next year. Make sense?
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 4:02 pm to
Celtic






Everyone else.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/13/12 at 4:07 pm to
IF (I heavily emphasize if) Arsenal gets rid of a few of the baggage players, get wilshere is healthy, keep RVP, and MAYBE sign some depth... I see them competing for the EPL title and of course potentially the CL.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Member since Oct 2007
160104 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 4:14 pm to
I wonder how Barça will look without Pep. Bayern should be stronger next season. Shaqiri and Dante will both provide great depth. They may be interested in making another signing as well, maybe another striker since Jupp never gave Petersen any games. Also, Emre Can should be full time in the squad next season that will give Schweiny a chance to relax sometimes.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7071 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

IF (I heavily emphasize if) Arsenal gets rid of a few of the baggage players, get wilshere is healthy, keep RVP, and MAYBE sign some depth... I see them competing for the EPL title and of course potentially the CL.


Translation.

If Arsenal becomes good then we'll be good.

WUT
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 5:42 pm to
If Milan get Rossi and balotelli they will be solid.

City should make a nice run

Real is pushing for Ibra so they won't win the UCL if he's there.

Bayern will be stacked as will dortmund

Malaga will shock some folks
Posted by BobLoblaw
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2011
2324 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Malaga will shock some folks


I think its still too early for Malaga. I think Valencia is more likely to make a run in Europe next year. Of course if Malaga's super rich owners spend stupid money this summer anything is possible.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
50253 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

I might have to put Dortmund in tier 2.

They shizen stomped BM yesterday.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 5:54 pm to
Seriously, if Chelsea gets Pep, I'd move them to tier 2.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/13/12 at 7:07 pm to
quote:


Seriously, if Chelsea gets Pep, I'd move them to tier 2.


Don't jinx us, post this again in a week
Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/13/12 at 10:57 pm to
As much as I'm a United fan and know they'll do good things, if they don't make some changes and maybe stop deciding to go auto-pilot, they might as well give their spot to someone who actually wants to attack and win.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:15 pm to
quote:

hey might as well give their spot to someone who actually wants to attack and win.


what does that even mean?
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
7798 posts
Posted on 5/13/12 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

Real Madrid
Barcelona

Man City
Bayern Munich
Man U

Dortmund
Milan
Arsenal

Juve
Valencia
PSG
Chelsea/Spurs
Porto


We'll see how the summer plays out but, right now, I'd say Juventus is solidly better than Milan. Their defense is truly exceptional and you would imagine they'll upgrade quality depth a bit and bring in another elite striker.

Milan's success may depend on whether the move from Fiorentina sparks Montolivo back into top form. He's an elite talent but really hasn't played that well this past year. Milan have a lot more work to do in the summer to catch Juve.



Posted by Dijkstra
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Member since Sep 2007
8738 posts
Posted on 5/14/12 at 12:02 am to
United got sloppy and lazy towards the end of the season, and until City kicked them in the arse, they looked dead, especially in the ridiculous draw to Everton and the loss to Wigan.

Even more heartbreaking is going to their year in the Champions League this season... Basel? What a sad, sad year for me. I'm really just down. It will heal.
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