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Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Dolemite
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2006
1021 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 1:59 pm
Just planted me a small garden for the first time. What type of fertilizer should I use on newly planted veggies?
Posted by SaDaTayMoses
Member since Oct 2005
4321 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 2:00 pm to
13-13-13 for all kinda of vegetables.
8-24-24 for tomatoes
manure for everything
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 2:03 pm to
Triple 13 is pretty much universal.

Cow shite, a little chicken shite, and a tiller makes some super duper arse fertilizer. Good luck keeping the weeds out though.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12102 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 2:15 pm to
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small garden for the first time

how small? Miracle gro is pretty fail safe just mix in a watering can
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 7:53 pm to
None. Incorporate fertilizer during the "off" season.

Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 7:55 pm to
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Miracle gro is pretty fail safe just mix in a watering can
I agree and almost said IF he wanted to use one, Miracle Grow.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22780 posts
Posted on 4/23/12 at 7:59 pm to
Depends. Are you trying to save money on your food bill or are you doing this to see how big you can grow tomatoes.

If you have Thriple 13 use it but be careful not to burn your plants.

Cow Manure is great but an over dose of it can cause your vegetable plants to grow like weeds but produce less in the way of food.

A great free source of fertilizer is stuff we usually throw away. Fish scales, all sorts of stuff you can mulch.

I prefer the less is more approach. I don't want to spend 300 dollars just to harvest 100 dollars worth of vegetables.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/23/12 at 8:02 pm to
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Cow shite, a little chicken shite, and a tiller makes some super duper arse fertilizer. Good luck keeping the weeds out though.

Poultry droppings are better manure than cow dung (or other farmyard manure) in nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium content.

Dried poultry manure is two to three times as rich as cow manure in inorganic fertilizer content.


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Good luck keeping the weeds out though.
There are several effective methods-ESPECIALLY if it's a small garden. Mulch, weed screen, etc. Grass clippings,as a mulch, will start to build up that perfect soil for the future.

Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:32 am to
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Poultry droppings are better manure than cow dung (or other farmyard manure) in nitrogen, phosphorous and potassium content.


How do you prep your poultry droppings to use in your garden? I have 4 chickens and have yet to really get a system going.

I have made a manure tea a couple times to sprinkle on my plants, but would like to eventually get a composter to break it down.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:33 pm to
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How do you prep your poultry droppings to use in your garden
I haven't used any recently. We just got back into a few chickens after years without any. I know farmers who've bought it by the truck loads.

We had goats and also now have rabbits but whatever manure I add, I add it in the late fall/early winter when I'm not planting anything.

As for a composter, I throw shyt in a pile. Now and then I'll stir it up a bit with a shoevel or rake.

I used to have a homemade composter. Wooden 1 X 6 rough cut lumber with a 6 inch spacing. To do it "right" you need to alternate layers of different things you'll be putting in. Also add fertilizer to the compost bin sometimes cause it's used to break down the contents.

There is a lot of info available on the net about composting if you're interested.
This post was edited on 4/24/12 at 8:35 pm
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 8:41 pm to
Rabbit crap is the shite. Doesn't smell and easy to shovel.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:05 pm to
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Rabbit crap is the shite. Doesn't smell and easy to shovel.
Only been a month since we're in the rabbit bidness but it's piling up pretty quickly.

I've been putting it in a pile under the barn.

Enjoy your contributions when it comes to lawns, gardening btw.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:07 pm to
A month is enough time to have more rabbits.

My former career was as a golf course superintendent. I still remember a little. But I'm not up on the newer chemicals and such.

And this is the first garden I've had in years.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:20 pm to
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And this is the first garden I've had in years.
A few years back I copied off of my father-in-law and went to a smaller, raised bed. I couldn't believe the amount of veggies he grew on limited space. I use the bricks from wal mart. I still have one long row other than this but love this one.


Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:26 pm to
That's nice. Mine is as big as a kids swingset. I use the legs as a trellis for the tomatoes. I didn't spend enough time building the ground up and it stays too wet after a rain.

But I got plenty of horse poop so next year I will be better prepared.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:29 pm to
My father-in-law throws all his grass clippings in his. I throw a lot, depending on if I have something planted. Green clippings can cook the roots, as I'm sure you know.

On the tomatoes, I've started using several bamboo poles for each one. Seems like the varieties today grow to the sky.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 4/24/12 at 9:35 pm to
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How do you prep your poultry droppings to use in your garden?
Found this for you on different kinds of manure. Just a snippt for you below. Enjoy.


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How to use manure
No matter what kind of manure you use, use it as a soil amendment, not a mulch. In other words, don't put raw manure directly on garden soils. Raw manure generally releases nitrogen compounds and ammonia which can burn plant roots, young plants and interfere with seed germination. In fact, it's recommended that all animal manure should be aged for at least 6 months. Many gardeners spread fresh manure in the fall and turn it in to the top 6 inches of soil a month before spring planting.

LINK
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
34521 posts
Posted on 4/25/12 at 7:14 am to
Best compost maker is a cement mixer. You can get them cheap at Harbor Freight (they put them on sale, then you can use a 20% off coupon). I coated the inside with fiberglass so it won't rust, then painted the outside black to absorb more sun heat. Flip the switch a couple of times a day and let it tumble for a minute.

I put 6 speckled trout carcasses in it. I swear, in 5 days there was nothing left of them. In summer, I can make a batch of compost in two to three weeks.
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