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13AMS 
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| Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:34 am)
Intersting that the in the 8th grade your are already getting offers? I completly understand recruiting kids that young but offering them a scholy?
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The Egg
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:35 am to 13AMS)
get in their heads early.
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eshorefan
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:38 am to 13AMS)
I'm sorry, but I've NEVER been an Indiana fan, particularly since Bob Knight won that Final Four contest against the Tigers in New Orleans so many years ago.
Now, you throw in Tom Crean, who reminds me of Judd Nelson, and that just makes it worse.
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:38 am to 13AMS)
Brady did this at LSU.
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Bubba Hotep
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:38 am to 13AMS)
More often than not, this plan backfires.
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:42 am to Bubba Hotep)
Does he play hurt?
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 10:43 am to eshorefan)
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Now, you throw in Tom Crean, who reminds me of Judd Nelson
what?
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 11:59 am to Bubba Hotep)
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More often than not, this plan backfires.
No, it doesn't. It's not like they ever have to accept the kid's commitment if he ends up being a loser. And if he does end up being the #1 recruit in the country or something, well, IU was on him first.
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:05 pm to 13AMS)
How old is the average 8th grader? 13 or 14..this guy is showing a beard! I've known alot of 8th graders that could really play BUT only played 21 years in high school because they were too old!
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Bubba Hotep
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:10 pm to Gravitiger)
I meant backfires, in that the kid usually doesn't pan out. High percentage of early bloomers don't become big time recruits. Although with his brother in the NBA, he could be an exception.
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Gus Tinsley
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:24 pm to Gus Tinsley)
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BUT only played 21 years in high school
Meant 2 years in high school....
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The Mick
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:24 pm to 13AMS)
Soccer clubs are signing 8 yr olds.
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Bubba Hotep
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:29 pm to The Mick)
But that is to enter into their youth programs. A little bit different, but still creepy.
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The Mick
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:31 pm to Bubba Hotep)
Unreal.
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Gravitiger
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:33 pm to Bubba Hotep)
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I meant backfires, in that the kid usually doesn't pan out. High percentage of early bloomers don't become big time recruits.
Unless that actually negatively impacts the school that offers him so early, it doesn't "backfire" on them. There's a difference between the kid just not panning out, and the kid not panning out backfiring on the school.
I also don't think the flame-out ratio is such a high percentage. If you looked at the top 100 8th graders in 2008 and the top 100 seniors now, probably half the list is the same. Sure kids have moved up and down, but many of them are the same. The young kids that are top 10 guys now but not as much room to develop still often end up top 100 guys down the road.
Perfect example is a kid I saw a lot, Andre Allen out of Memphis. He was a 5'9", 200 lb. PG as a 13 year old, and he was the best player in the nation at his age group. Then he ended up still a 5'9", 200 lb. senior (with a weed habit), but was still a top 100 type recruit with offers from Memphis, Arkansas, Tennessee, Ole Miss, etc. Probably could have been an even better running back if he had enjoyed football more, but I digress.
This post was edited on 4/18 at 12:38 pm
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Bubba Hotep
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 12:42 pm to Gravitiger)
I worded it wrong and I thought I clarified it.
If the ultimate goal is to sign that player, which by offering them a scholarship it appears is the case, then if that player does not pan out, then the plan "backfired." It will likely not have a lastining negative impact on the program, so it won't "backfire" in that sense.
Regardless, a program with the stature of Indiana should not be doing this. This is something a non-elite school should do to draw attention. Billy Gillespie did this frequently at Kentucky, with virtually zero success. I don't think any of his middle school recruits ever went on to play major college basketball.
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loco4lsu
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 1:37 pm to Bubba Hotep)
ihave watched the kid...hell of a player !!! he will be something to watch .... probably a one and done type of kid !!
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LSU2014
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 1:40 pm to 13AMS)
It's a risk vs. reward type of thing, obviously, but even Eric Gordon himself has been saying for years that his youngest brother would be the best of the three. I normally don't like offers this early and still don't with this one as I think IU would have a good shot even if they waited but I think this is as safe a bet as you'll find
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bulldogger 
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 2:06 pm to 13AMS)
IU did this back in the 80s with some player (Damon? somebody) who turned out to be very average.
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Bubba Hotep
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| re: Indiana Coach Offers 8th grader (Basketball) (Posted on 4/18/12 at 2:12 pm to bulldogger)
Damon Bailey.
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