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Observations on BB Hire
Posted on 4/15/12 at 8:44 am
Posted on 4/15/12 at 8:44 am
It is kind of funny that so many people condemn Johnny Jones for his part in breaking NCAA basketball rules and said that means he should never be coach but then supported other coaches that have broken rules in the past - Pearl, Tubby Smith, Scott Drew, etc. Others say that we should have gotten a home run proven winner. IMHO you don't attain that lofty position in college basketball without breaking some of the rules. Those are just the ones that haven't been caught yet.
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 8:47 am to Tom Bronco
If u aint cheating you aint trying!!!!
Posted on 4/15/12 at 8:47 am to Tom Bronco
Thank you so much for that insight.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 8:54 am to Godfather1
No other team wanted Jones not in 11 years at NT.
Louisiana people who want don't know basketball!
They think Louisiana is some hotbed of talent and if we lockdown the state we will be world beaters.
You must recruit nationaly to be competative, Louisiana does not have very much talent in BB.
Since 04 which was the exception to the rule La has not had a top 10 player.
Thats what you need to compete top 10-20 players.
DD son was all excited about aau connections so what!
Louisiana people who want don't know basketball!
They think Louisiana is some hotbed of talent and if we lockdown the state we will be world beaters.
You must recruit nationaly to be competative, Louisiana does not have very much talent in BB.
Since 04 which was the exception to the rule La has not had a top 10 player.
Thats what you need to compete top 10-20 players.
DD son was all excited about aau connections so what!
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:02 am to gotygers
quote:
No other team wanted Jones not in 11 years at NT.
Louisiana people who want don't know basketball!
They think Louisiana is some hotbed of talent and if we lockdown the state we will be world beaters.
You must recruit nationaly to be competative, Louisiana does not have very much talent in BB.
Since 04 which was the exception to the rule La has not had a top 10 player.
Thats what you need to compete top 10-20 players.
DD son was all excited about aau connections so what!
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Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:03 am to gotygers
quote:
Since 04 which was the exception to the rule La has not had a top 10 player
Greg Monroe was #1 overall
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:05 am to Tom Bronco
Didn't Lester Earl recant the allegations and finally admit that he was pressured by NCAA investigators to lie about Dale Brown & Johnny Jones?
Or was that just for Dale Brown's involvement?
Or was that just for Dale Brown's involvement?
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:07 am to Palm Beach Tiger
quote:
Greg Monroe was #1 overall
And is a beast in the nba
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:13 am to LosLobos111
Johnny "Bagman" Jones left other lasting memories.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:22 am to Tom Bronco
quote:
It is kind of funny that so many people condemn Johnny Jones for his part in breaking NCAA basketball rules and said that means he should never be coach but then supported other coaches that have broken rules in the past - Pearl, Tubby Smith, Scott Drew, etc. Others say that we should have gotten a home run proven winner. IMHO you don't attain that lofty position in college basketball without breaking some of the rules. Those are just the ones that haven't been caught yet.
What rules were Tubby supposed to have broken? Don't lump him in with the others. Tubby has run clean programs and to my knowledge has never been accused of violating NCAA rules.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:37 am to gotygers
quote:
No other team wanted Jones not in 11 years at NT.
The North Texas board seems to think that Jones had been looked at several times during his career there.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:47 am to shutterspeed
quote:
The North Texas board seems to think that Jones had been looked at several times during his career there.
I said it before why would he try to get another job? Obviously this is his dream job. He worked hard and got UNT turned into a consistant winner. Around 2-3 years ago (coming of several 20 win seasons and a couple tourney births) would have been the logical time for him to take the next step up. However thats right at the time that TJ was winning 2 games in the SEC.
So there was a cross roads A. take a step up to a bottom of the barrel major program and be mired in a rebuilding process when the LSU job comes open or B. keep winning at the program you built and hope thats enough
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:54 am to gotygers
quote:
No other team wanted Jones not in 11 years at NT. Louisiana people who want don't know basketball! They think Louisiana is some hotbed of talent and if we lockdown the state we will be world beaters. You must recruit nationaly to be competative, Louisiana does not have very much talent in BB. Since 04 which was the exception to the rule La has not had a top 10 player. Thats what you need to compete top 10-20 players. DD son was all excited about aau connections so what!
it is better for people to think you are ignorant than for you to post this and prove them right.
you probably did not watch one of his games, either as a player or coach.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 9:59 am to gotygers
quote:
They think Louisiana is some hotbed of talent and if we lockdown the state we will be world beaters.
You must recruit nationaly to be competative, Louisiana does not have very much talent in BB.
Since 04 which was the exception to the rule La has not had a top 10 player.
go tygers
Your spelling leaves a lot to be desired, but its the thoughts that count.
I agree, all those guys hoping to "lock down louisiana" have a fantasy about Louisiana ball.
For the guys who were freshmen for the 2011-2012 season, rivals had no Louisiana hs recruits in top 100.
The football analogy is Louisiana basketball is like UTk football.
Not enough to compete at the highest level, without recruiting the bigger cities within 300 miles.
For LA basketball, that's going to be Houston.
For UTk football, that's CIncinnati, Louisville and the ever popular ATL.
This post was edited on 4/15/12 at 10:01 am
Posted on 4/15/12 at 1:08 pm to LSUFreek
Posted on 4/15/12 at 1:11 pm to Tom Bronco
My observation is we are fricked, dumb hire, 5 more years of losing, him being at north Texas for 10+ years and no one else wanted him says all you need to know.
Posted on 4/15/12 at 1:13 pm to Tom Bronco
quote:
t is kind of funny that so many people condemn Johnny Jones for his part in breaking NCAA basketball rules and said that means he should never be coach but then supported other coaches that have broken rules in the past - Pearl, Tubby Smith, Scott Drew, etc.
Pearl- 3 Sweet 16's and an Elite 8
Tubby- 5 Sweet 16's, 2 Elite 8's, and nat'l title
Drew- 2 Elite 8's
Jones- 2 tourney appearances
Posted on 4/15/12 at 1:18 pm to Tom Bronco
11 years is an awful long time to be at a program like N Texas if you really are that good. I just hope that he was a well kept secret. 
Posted on 4/15/12 at 1:22 pm to Tom Bronco
Date Opponent Location Time (CST) Results Media
Wed, Nov 09 Oklahoma City (Exhib.) The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 67 - 54 (W)
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Fri, Nov 11 St. Gregory's The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 81 - 52 (W)
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Wed, Nov 16 Texas Tech at Lubbock, TX 7:00 p.m. 64 - 69 (L)
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Tue, Nov 22 UT Arlington at Arlington, TX 7:00 p.m. 64 - 97 (L)
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Sun, Nov 27 Mississippi State at Starkville, MS 1:30 p.m. 59 - 82 (L)
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Tue, Nov 29 Texas at Austin, TX 7:00 p.m. 57 - 73 (L)
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LMU Centennial Classic
Fri, Dec 02 La Sierra at Los Angeles, CA 4:00 p.m. 92 - 45 (W)
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Sat, Dec 03 Columbia at Los Angeles, CA 7:00 p.m. 57 - 72 (L)
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Sun, Dec 04 Loyola Marymount at Los Angeles, CA 3:30 p.m. 76 - 63 (W)
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Sat, Dec 10 Sam Houston State The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 53 - 50 (W)
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Sun, Dec 18 Jackson State The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 69 - 55 (W)
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Tue, Dec 20 Grambling State The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 82 - 40 (W)
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Thu, Dec 22 Louisiana State The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 58 - 67 (L)
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Tue, Dec 27 New Orleans The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 78 - 47 (W)
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Thu, Dec 29 UALR * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 66 - 69 (L)
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Sat, Dec 31 Troy * The Super Pit 3:00 p.m. 87 - 65 (W)
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Thu, Jan 05 South Alabama * at Mobile, AL 7:00 p.m. 78 - 73 (W) OT
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Sat, Jan 07 Arkansas State * at Jonesboro, AR 7:00 p.m. 72 - 75 (L)
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Thu, Jan 12 Western Kentucky * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 84 - 67 (W)
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Sat, Jan 14 ULM * at Monroe, LA 1:00 p.m. 68 - 55 (W)
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Wed, Jan 18 Huston-Tillotson (Exhib.) The Super Pit 12:00 p.m. 98 - 51 (W)
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Sat, Jan 21 Denver * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 75 - 74 (W)
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Wed, Jan 25 Louisiana-Lafayette * at Lafayette, LA 7:15 p.m. 62 - 64 (L)
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Sat, Jan 28 Arkansas State * The Super Pit 12:00 p.m. 76 - 64 (W)
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Thu, Feb 02 Middle Tennessee * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 66 - 68 (L)
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Thu, Feb 09 FIU * at Miami, FL 6:00 p.m. 68 - 61 (W)
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Sat, Feb 11 Florida Atlantic * at Boca Raton, FL 6:00 p.m. 81 - 86 (L) 2OT
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Thu, Feb 16 ULM * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 86 - 51 (W)
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Sat, Feb 18 Louisiana-Lafayette * The Super Pit 3:30 p.m. 53 - 57 (L)
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Thu, Feb 23 UALR * at Little Rock, AR 7:00 p.m. 75 - 67 (W) OT
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Sun, Feb 26 Denver * at Denver, CO 2:00 p.m. 52 - 64 (L)
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Sun Belt Conference Tournament
Sun, Mar 04 No. 4 Louisiana-Lafayette at Hot Springs, AR 6:15 p.m. 65 - 62 (W)
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Mon, Mar 05 No. 9 Arkansas State at Hot Springs, AR 6:00 p.m. 76 - 72 (W)
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Tue, Mar 06 No. 7 Western Kentucky at Hot Springs, AR 6:00 p.m. 70 - 74 (L)
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* Conference Games
<< Previous Season
Wed, Nov 09 Oklahoma City (Exhib.) The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 67 - 54 (W)
STATS NOTES
Fri, Nov 11 St. Gregory's The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 81 - 52 (W)
STATS NOTES
Wed, Nov 16 Texas Tech at Lubbock, TX 7:00 p.m. 64 - 69 (L)
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Tue, Nov 22 UT Arlington at Arlington, TX 7:00 p.m. 64 - 97 (L)
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Sun, Nov 27 Mississippi State at Starkville, MS 1:30 p.m. 59 - 82 (L)
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Tue, Nov 29 Texas at Austin, TX 7:00 p.m. 57 - 73 (L)
STATS NOTES
LMU Centennial Classic
Fri, Dec 02 La Sierra at Los Angeles, CA 4:00 p.m. 92 - 45 (W)
STATS NOTES
Sat, Dec 03 Columbia at Los Angeles, CA 7:00 p.m. 57 - 72 (L)
STATS NOTES
Sun, Dec 04 Loyola Marymount at Los Angeles, CA 3:30 p.m. 76 - 63 (W)
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Sat, Dec 10 Sam Houston State The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 53 - 50 (W)
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Sun, Dec 18 Jackson State The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 69 - 55 (W)
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Tue, Dec 20 Grambling State The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 82 - 40 (W)
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Thu, Dec 22 Louisiana State The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 58 - 67 (L)
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Tue, Dec 27 New Orleans The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 78 - 47 (W)
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Thu, Dec 29 UALR * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 66 - 69 (L)
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Sat, Dec 31 Troy * The Super Pit 3:00 p.m. 87 - 65 (W)
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Thu, Jan 05 South Alabama * at Mobile, AL 7:00 p.m. 78 - 73 (W) OT
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Sat, Jan 07 Arkansas State * at Jonesboro, AR 7:00 p.m. 72 - 75 (L)
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Thu, Jan 12 Western Kentucky * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 84 - 67 (W)
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Sat, Jan 14 ULM * at Monroe, LA 1:00 p.m. 68 - 55 (W)
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Wed, Jan 18 Huston-Tillotson (Exhib.) The Super Pit 12:00 p.m. 98 - 51 (W)
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Sat, Jan 21 Denver * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 75 - 74 (W)
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Wed, Jan 25 Louisiana-Lafayette * at Lafayette, LA 7:15 p.m. 62 - 64 (L)
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Sat, Jan 28 Arkansas State * The Super Pit 12:00 p.m. 76 - 64 (W)
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Thu, Feb 02 Middle Tennessee * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 66 - 68 (L)
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Thu, Feb 09 FIU * at Miami, FL 6:00 p.m. 68 - 61 (W)
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Sat, Feb 11 Florida Atlantic * at Boca Raton, FL 6:00 p.m. 81 - 86 (L) 2OT
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Thu, Feb 16 ULM * The Super Pit 7:00 p.m. 86 - 51 (W)
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Sat, Feb 18 Louisiana-Lafayette * The Super Pit 3:30 p.m. 53 - 57 (L)
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Thu, Feb 23 UALR * at Little Rock, AR 7:00 p.m. 75 - 67 (W) OT
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Sun, Feb 26 Denver * at Denver, CO 2:00 p.m. 52 - 64 (L)
STATS NOTES
Sun Belt Conference Tournament
Sun, Mar 04 No. 4 Louisiana-Lafayette at Hot Springs, AR 6:15 p.m. 65 - 62 (W)
STATS NOTES
Mon, Mar 05 No. 9 Arkansas State at Hot Springs, AR 6:00 p.m. 76 - 72 (W)
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Tue, Mar 06 No. 7 Western Kentucky at Hot Springs, AR 6:00 p.m. 70 - 74 (L)
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* Conference Games
<< Previous Season
Posted on 4/15/12 at 1:39 pm to saintsfan22
quote:
Pearl- 3 Sweet 16's and an Elite 8 Tubby- 5 Sweet 16's, 2 Elite 8's, and nat'l title Drew- 2 Elite 8's Jones- 2 tourney appearances
Pearl coached at Wisconsin-Milwaukee before he got the Tennessee job.
Drew was the coach at Valpo before he got the Baylor job.
That being said coaches have to start somewhere. So what Jones was NT for 11 years. He brought a nothing program to the Dance the same way Drew and Pearl did.
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