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renovations on rental property and loans

Posted on 4/11/12 at 4:29 pm
Posted by JoseVargasTX
Heath, TX
Member since Sep 2011
719 posts
Posted on 4/11/12 at 4:29 pm
short and sweet:

Opportunity to buy three duplexes and renovate them and then rent them out. I would want to finance the property and have a construction loan to do my renovations. Property is selling at 40% of appraised value before demo and renovations.

This would be done with two other family members and we would form an LLC.

Debt to income is no problem, over $250,000 in combined income, two of three have strong credit scores, third score is at 620.

What are options to get into this while staying as liquid as possible. Say total cost of all three properties is $75,000.00 and looking at $20,000 in renovations on each one.

Thanks for the help!
Posted by JoseVargasTX
Heath, TX
Member since Sep 2011
719 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 7:17 am to
bump--advice please!
Posted by sonusfaber
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2010
2625 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 8:33 am to
Honestly this doesn't sound like a good idea at the current proposal. And that is because of a major, glaring issue.
quote:

I would want to finance the property and have a construction loan to do my renovations.


If you can't do this with cash then why do it? Logic: If you have the cash to swing this, then do that. If you don't have said cash then you don't have the security to handle the risk. With the income you stated, coming up with that shouldn't be a problem.

quote:

What are options to get into this while staying as liquid as possible.


And again, if you are worried about staying liquid, why go borrow money to invest in real estate?

With all due respect, I get the idea you are going to do this either way as you have made up your mind and need someone to support the decision.

Oh and never mind the idea of getting into a partnership with family that involves a debt. There just seems so many ways this can go wrong without eliminating the risks. I think doing this with cash could eliminate a lot of problems.
Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 11:24 am to
you are not going to get a conventional loan to finance the propertys and fix them up. this is going to take a home bank loan. in other words good luck. i work for a conventional lender and to buy investment property's we require a 660 credit score 25% down and 12 months worth of reserves and the property cannot have repairs that need to be made. so you best bet is a local bank and the interest rate and terms will not be as good as a conventional lender.
Posted by JoseVargasTX
Heath, TX
Member since Sep 2011
719 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:09 pm to
Thanks for the advice--have a local bank who gave us a loan on one property already and we have flipped that property.

Same bank is ready to do business with us again--they want 30% down plus first year's insurance on the three properties. They are willing to do $80,000.00 on top of our offer for construction costs.

Properties will appraise for double what we're buying them and putting into them when we're finished. Any thoughts on whether I can get this done with less than 30% down?
Posted by Alabama Slim
2009,2011 BCS National Champions
Member since Jul 2007
9936 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

I would want to finance the property and have a construction loan to do my renovations.


Posted by hawkeye007
Member since Feb 2010
5851 posts
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:13 pm to
the 30% down deal seems like a great deal considering you would have to put down 25% to go conventional.
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