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343 could have saved Halo, instead they kill it

Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:36 pm
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:36 pm
Today the Halo 4 GI story was leaked. I have read it so I can vouch for the info.

343 has taken every piece of fan input, shite on it, then asked us to eat it. I am beyond disappointed.

Good New features
-Spartan Ops
Very similar to Resistance 2's online co-op campaign separate from the actual campaign. Co-op missions with other Spartans. Firefight was lame anyway.
-Primary Weapon Customization
It is implied that one can choose between the DMR,BR, and assault rifle as a primary spawning weapon. Great idea as long as DMR and BR are equally balanced.

Bearable New Features
-Sprint
Sprint is no longer an armor ability, instead every spartan spawns with the ability. Of all of the armor abilities sprint is the least egregious, but it allows players to run away from fights they are losing. I wouldn't include it, but I can live with it.
-Credit system
Armor abilities and armor are now unlocked by a credit system. I like unlocking new sets of armor, but I hate armor abilities, so this is bearable.

Features that have effectively killed halo
-Armor abilities
They killed halo reach, and they will kill this game, even without armor lock.
-Forerunner Vision
Thought armor lock was gay? Now you can see through walls. Great.
-No respawn delay
Can't wait for COD style revenge spawn kills. Thanks 343.
-Random weapon respawn times
Another way to award shitty players, that's exactly what we asked for!
-Joining Games in progress
Essentially confirms the lack of a Halo 2/3 style matchmaking, and confirmation I will never play this game online.

Link to forum with scans
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:40 pm to
Terrible.
Posted by bluebarracuda
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:41 pm to
Well looks like Im not getting halo 4...
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:43 pm to
Random weapon respawn timers? Sons I am disappoint
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:45 pm to


Man this is some bull
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:48 pm to
I should also elaborate on Spartan Ops, because it looks like the only MP I will be playing. It doesn't replace the online co-op of the actual campaign. It is a standalone mode that will have new missions added every week with rendered cutscenes and all for FREE.

That is cool shite. I don't understand how 343 comes up with a great idea then shits on everything else.
Posted by CornDogCologne
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:51 pm to
I've been pretty indifferent about the idea of more halos since the announcement of 4.

Posted by stout
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:51 pm to
Halo has been dead even before this
This post was edited on 4/7/12 at 2:52 pm
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Halo has been dead even before this

And it could have easily been revived. The fixes weren't hard fixes. The pro players are pissed at the news today because it essentially means Halo is dead and the need to play a new game.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:58 pm to
Halo went the way of CoD and tried to appeal to the casual players. Halo was a hard game to pick up and be good but H3 and Reach obviously changed that and they aren't going to go back now. Too bad that even with that it is still dead for both the pro and casual players.
Posted by Lynyrd
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 2:58 pm to
Well...that's not good news
Posted by arobbi3
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 3:16 pm to
:omg:

change
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 3:30 pm to
This isn't change, it's more of the same.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 3:35 pm to
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change


There is such a thing as change for the worse.
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 3:46 pm to
Well I used to give a frick now I could give a frick less-?
Posted by arobbi3
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1483 posts
Posted on 4/7/12 at 4:05 pm to
How do you know it's for the worse? Did the forums provide any details about forerunner vision? Does it have a time limit? Can you use weapons while in it? I agree all of these change dont necessarily look great, but at least wait until you see the game in action before you condemn it. There should be different playlists that don't allow certain AAs and equipment.

I love halo just as much as the next guy, and as much as I would love to see halo 2-3: 2012, I also want to see new things in the halo franchise.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 4:21 pm to
Crysis 3?
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 4/7/12 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

How do you know it's for the worse?

Because Halo: Reach was remarkably worse than Halo 3, and Halo 4 is keeping what made reach awful, on top of taking out key components of what made halo multiplayer great.
quote:

Did the forums provide any details about forerunner vision? Does it have a time limit? Can you use weapons while in it?

Does it matter? It doesn't have to be unbalanced to be stupid.
quote:

I also want to see new things in the halo franchise.

Spartan Ops is an example of an acceptable addition to a halo game. Changing everything that halo is about is not.
Posted by GeauxTigers580307
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
582 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 8:18 am to
I'm beyond dissapointed to see some of this confirmed news. A AA as you become higher prestiged sounds fricking lame. And random spawn times is whack, the reason for me halo thrived so hard is the fact that therea power weapons on the map you have to set yourself up to get during a certain point in the game. Giving a team the chance to come back or atleast get the advantedge in how to play the mad for a period of time. frick man I gotta find a new favorite game, I was one who didn't condemn reach because I was so for everything else the halo franchise had done and I can deal with "different". But I wish they could have realized "different" was worse than the old. Fml
Posted by skullhawk
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Member since Nov 2007
23027 posts
Posted on 4/8/12 at 10:12 am to
Did anybody like the armor abilities?

Reach was my fist Halo multiplayer experience so I have nothing to compare it to but I never hear any veteran players compliment this addition to the game.

Maybe they could offer a playlist without all this crap and get back to gun v gun?

Trying to make the game COD like is not the direction they should be heading. That formula is played out and people are looking for something else.
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