One thing that never fails to bug me about Batman Begins

i just noticed this today.... the slums of gothom are barely shown in TDK compared to begins..... its like its two different cities.... i thought the first one was much darker

TDK removed some of the fantasy elements in Begins. This entire "slum island" thing doesn't really fit in with the realism of TDK.

Watched it as well. Just noticed that the kid that Batman gives the gun thingy too + Katie Holmes took care of at the end during the Fracas = Joffrey from GoT.

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Joker's plans were a little too perfectly orchestrated

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You really caught a vibe that it was all planned out?

He is a guy who self proclaims himself as a agent of anarchy, and shows disdain for the "schemers."

Hell, even his own goals take a 180 on a whim.

Nah, he just knows how to roll with the punches. He doesn't plan from A to Z, he just meanders and shoots from the hip.

His "plans" are just intelligent foresight allowing him to keep his options open so he doesn't get backed into a corner.

He didn't plan on getting thrown into jail.....but he had contingencies in place to get him out and to further his brand of chaos.

Think Jack Sparrow and his "brillant" plans. It's similar to that. It isn't like he meticulously plots A to Z and the world falls into place. He just has the ability of being instantly adaptable that let's him wing it.