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Why Les felt like he owed JJ...

Posted on 1/12/12 at 8:28 am
Posted by aroussel3Tigers
Member since Mar 2009
4905 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 8:28 am
In Lee's freshman year, he began the season with Hatch as the co/ starter for LSU. JJ was not even a thought. 3 star riding the bench.

Hatch has injury issues and loses playing time. (eventually transfers). Lee was young and not ready... Pick 6 here we come.

So the fanbase puts pressure on Miles (can we say "hot seat"?). Here comes JJ. LSU succeeds because no one is ready for this freshman's wrecklessness. He helps put away GT in the peach bowl. Miles' job is saved (so he thinks he owes JJ. Something special brewing).

And that my friends is my opinion of how we ended up with Monday night and the way we got there.
Posted by Soft_Parade
Member since Sep 2005
2502 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 8:34 am to
Could be that he simply thought JJ was the better QB which is more likely and troubling at the same time.
Posted by GeauxZone90
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2010
2923 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:04 am to
I think he owes JJ a favor because in the Ole Miss game he blamed the clocking on JJ. It was obviously Les calling for it. So he made a deal with JJ that he would never pull him
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44562 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:06 am to
Les told y'all the other day why he rolls with JJ: he thinks he's Lee's equal as a passer, with the added bonus of mobility. he thinks Jordan's an overall better QB. that's it. not really much more to it.
Posted by LSUfanaddict
somewhere in TX
Member since Apr 2007
2095 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:08 am to
Then he really IS that stupid, huh?
Posted by Mr LSU2001
lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
465 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:09 am to
Mabe it is as simple as he thought both are average and JJ's mobility its better to have an average moble guy than a average non moble guy.

Both are completely average to below average QB's at best thats the problem!! Hopefully ZM is as good as advertised!!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162225 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:10 am to
quote:

In Lee's freshman year, he began the season with Hatch as the co/ starter for LSU. JJ was not even a thought. 3 star riding the bench.

Hatch has injury issues and loses playing time. (eventually transfers). Lee was young and not ready... Pick 6 here we come.

So the fanbase puts pressure on Miles (can we say "hot seat"?). Here comes JJ. LSU succeeds because no one is ready for this freshman's wrecklessness. He helps put away GT in the peach bowl. Miles' job is saved (so he thinks he owes JJ. Something special brewing).

And that my friends is my opinion of how we ended up with Monday night and the way we got there.


And Lee bailed out JJ in the Florida, Tenn, and Mcneese (LOL) games last year while JJ was stinking up the joint.

Whatever favors you think Miles owed JJ went out the window once he engaged in criminal behavior IMO. Actually they went out the window when Lee started bailing out JJ last year and when he took command of the team this year.

If anything he owes Lee something
Posted by windhammontanatigers
windham-stanford, montana
Member since Nov 2009
4993 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:10 am to
If he can evaluate talent and that is what he comes up with then Im with you.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81631 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Could be that he simply thought JJ was the better QB
No one without dain bramage could think that.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14407 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:15 am to
Especially looking at all the howlers JJ committed over the years, and the consistently poor throws to his receivers over the four years.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
71730 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Les told y'all the other day why he rolls with JJ: he thinks he's Lee's equal as a passer, with the added bonus of mobility. he thinks Jordan's an overall better QB. that's it. not really much more to it.


Pretty much

There may be some kinda feeling like he owed him mentality too, but thats the main thing. And shite that's even more worrisome honestly
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Why Les felt like he owed JJ...


"owed" JLee/JJ
"owes" the fans an apology/explanation, etc.

What is with all the entitlement going around?
Posted by sstig
Houston
Member since Oct 2003
2769 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:20 am to
I am glad they are both gone. It will be refreshing to have new qb's. Saban would not have won with JJ and our game plan on offence.
Posted by White Shadeaux
In the nicest parts of hell
Member since Jan 2006
24114 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Mabe it is as simple as he thought both are average and JJ's mobility its better to have an average moble guy than a average non moble guy.

Both are completely average to below average QB's at best thats the problem!! Hopefully ZM is as good as advertised!!


Which makes not throwing ZM out there even more troubling. If ZM can't even throw a decent pass, better then an a-hole throwing for 15 net yards...then we are in serious shite.
Posted by aroussel3Tigers
Member since Mar 2009
4905 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:26 am to
quote:

What is with all the entitlement going around?
Just trying to deal with Miles' stupidity. There has to be some reason. Is he really that stubborn?
Posted by Tigerbait580307
Member since Jan 2012
76 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:26 am to
Are u trying to get into miles' head? Good luck
Posted by LSUMastermind
South Florida
Member since Jun 2008
897 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:28 am to
Les didnt owe JJ, Lee just pissed him off, Les was stubborn, end of story.
Posted by LessofLes
Member since Sep 2010
1686 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:30 am to
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 9:32 am
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:31 am to
Les Miles told several booster groups in the Fall of 2008 upon introducing Jordan Jefferson that he would play significant minutes & significant snaps for us that same year.

He didn't have jack schit for pressure. He said that himself.
Posted by JohnLSU
Death Valley, LA
Member since Aug 2007
7913 posts
Posted on 1/12/12 at 9:39 am to
Lee got caught in bed with his wife and his daughter. Why you think he was skipping classes for? He messed his own self.
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