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re: Logical theory why winner of Oregon & USC will play LSU for 2013 BCSNCG

Posted on 12/26/11 at 8:35 am to
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 8:35 am to
Neither Oregon or USC will play much of an OCC schedule in 2012 although by comparison USC's is tougher by far. I suspect there will be a huge push to get USC in the NC conversation, hell Herbie is pushing them in 2011 despite their two loses, but I think Kiffen will drive this team to underachieve.

If Oregon can avoid a pitfall they could emerge in 2012 but right now I'm looking at Clemson in a relatively weak ACC or Oklahoma as the likely candidates. Of course when it comes to succumbing to pitfalls Clemson is the poster school.
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
1872 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 8:48 am to
quote:

So how did they "stock up" on recruits? Last I checked, every university was limited in the number of recruits they could sign each year.

Good question. I remember reading some pieces, maybe by Ted Miller of ESPN who covers the PAC-12, about how they stalked up. I cant remember exactly how they did it, but I think they grey shirted lots of guys, or brought on many walk-ons, or some other funky thing to prepare for the 10 player hits they will be getting, starting in this new recruiting class. I just cannot remember exactly what they did that was special, but there was something. It seems USC did a really good job of hedging against the reductions some how. Can't remember exactly though...

I do remember though reading how USC's depth was really thin and they could of easily used much help from last year's freshman class with many players but they chose to not play any to keep their redshirts as a buffer for the years coming down the pike.

Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 8:52 am to
quote:

I do remember though reading how USC's depth was really thin and they could of easily used much help from last year's freshman class with many players but they chose to not play any to keep their redshirts as a buffer for the years coming down the pike.

That makes sense in terms of having bodies but there is no way their talent level won't take a hit with reduced scholarships to hand out.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 8:58 am to
For years USC signed five star players who were then buried on depth charts behind other five star athletes. USC didn't care because it prevented these kids from signing with another school.

With the scholarship reduction these players are going to sign elsewhere, perhaps in the Pac12 and contribute.

ESPN will fluff USC for nine months but I don't see them being a factor in 2012.

Oregon is more likely to come out of the Pac12 in 2012 as an NC contender IMHO.
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 9:42 am to
quote:

How can you make a comment about something you did not read?



I skimmed through your post

Too much writing on USC makes my head hurt
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 9:43 am to
Dude, settle down, your posts are too long.
Posted by ALTiger
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3031 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 11:26 am to
I really don't see anyone outside the SEC winning the BCSNC for the foreseeable future. If the BCS is truly about pairing the "best" two teams, an SEC team should be in it every year. These discussions IMo are merely about who will lose to the SEC in the championship game.
Posted by bopper50
Sugarland Texas
Member since Mar 2009
9112 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 1:33 pm to
Did you consider Texas at all ?

They have tons of 4-5 star talent playing & redshirted this year, even more talent coming in with another 5 star running back and a defense that is starting to jell and will be very strong next year..

Plus they will have less competition to vault over..


I could see an LSU vs Texas game.
Posted by SLTiger29
Galliano, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
734 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 2:32 pm to
frick Texas.

ESPN will tell the BCS they want USCw just like they told then they wanted Bama this year. The good news is that Bama is last on their "traditional power" depth chart, behind USCw, tOSU, OU, and UM. The only reason Bama is in this game is because the rest of the has beens were on suspension or had two losses
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 12/26/11 at 3:01 pm to
What happened was this: USC put all of their eggs in one basket. They were hoping the appeal would reduce the sanctions, so they signed a full class. Now that the appeal sunk, they can only sign 9 players. Let that sink in. They will have no depth after 2012.
Posted by cleetus
Houston
Member since Nov 2010
4031 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 7:50 am to
I thought everyone was saying OK State was a year ahead of their projected run and were overachieving this year? This was early in the season while they were undefeated and it was next year they were supposed to really make a push.

I haven't kept up with where their classes are but just going off talk.
Posted by Coach D
Member since Oct 2010
1734 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 8:36 am to
Word is Landry is "considering" his options. He hasn't declared yet. I think OU could be scary if he returns. They would be top 5 if so.

LSU should be 1 unless we lose all the RSSO and JR
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 9:51 am to
There are plenty of theories on this board but none are logical. Ever.
Posted by bigeztiger
Columbus Ohio
Member since Jul 2011
5092 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 9:58 am to
quote:

1)LSU


Ill take a PAC-18 team again! they dont know what the word defense means! Would crush the quacks again
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

theory

That is not a theory.

quote:

stalked up

What?

quote:

then

than

English isn't your first language, is it? All your long posts read like you're someone who didn't learn English as their natural language.
Posted by parrotdr
Cesspool of Rationalization
Member since Oct 2003
7507 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

But USC has to play Oregon and most likely 2 times next year. Beating UO twice will be very hard.


Easier than beating Bama twice...
Posted by geauxgeebs
Member since Oct 2011
230 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 8:19 pm to
I doubt we see a PAC 12 team in the BCSNC anytime soon. Big 12 and ACC will get the nod over pac team based on competition alone.
Posted by we_geaux_harder
alexandria
Member since Dec 2011
1194 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 9:43 pm to
Good logic but if I've ever learned anything from college football, you never know who will show up and who will be let downs
Posted by levee-runner
Member since Jul 2005
68 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 10:04 pm to
quote:

Easier than beating bama twice.....




Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12191 posts
Posted on 12/27/11 at 10:10 pm to
i agree with the ducks top 5 next year but i want to tease them a bit.

this was the same guy who said they would have beat lsu if LMJ didn't get hurt and now says that they'll do fine next year without him
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