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Beating a team twice in the same year....

Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:37 am
Posted by Statestreet
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:37 am
People (Saban, etc..) say that it is very difficlt to beat a team twice in the same year, but I don't really understand that. What is the rationale for that?

- We've proven that we can beat them in their house
- Bama players and a good number of the media have already proclaimed that they are the better team. They just lost, the Tigers didn't win. (LSU still has something to prove).
- We have them with a slight home field advantage this time and on artifical turf.


What makes it more difficult?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:38 am to
Saban did it...UGA 2003.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:39 am to
Saban had also never lost games to the same coach back to back.. until this NOv 5th that is
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:39 am to
watching game tape of your team playing that team >>>>>>>>>> game tape of that team playing someone else.

you can see what worked against them and what didn't and then determine how to attack the defense/offense and what adjustments they will likely make.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:40 am to
quote:

People (Saban, etc..) say that it is very difficlt to beat a team twice in the same year, but I don't really understand that. What is the rationale for that?
They showed the stats on ESPN this weekend and of the few times that it has happened in which 2 teams faced each other in the regular season and in a bowl game, none of the teams who won the regular season game went on to win bowl game
Posted by kappadelttau
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:40 am to
vt vs clemson proves he's full of shite
Posted by That One
Northern Virginia
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:40 am to
quote:

What makes it more difficult?

Nothing really. Wait for the gumps to say that they are still better and that the third time is a charm...eventually wanting a re-re-match.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:40 am to
Beating LSU once is proving to be almost "impossible"
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:41 am to
quote:

vt vs clemson proves he's full of shite


what about Wisconsin vs MSU?
Posted by dos crystal
Georgia
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:41 am to
Beating a team twice in the same year....


well, according to a lot of media and bama fans, they really won the game/out played lsu. therefore, it will be real hard for them to do it again. lsu by 10 pts. !
Posted by GeauxSaban
VA
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:42 am to
Bobby bowden says the coach of the losing team has an easier time getting his team motivated for the rematch
Posted by Thunder Tiger
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:42 am to
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Saban had also never lost games to the same coach back to back.. until this NOv 5th that is


I was lurking on TideFans and they proudly brought up that tricky was 14-1, or something like that, in "revenge" games. Of course, they didn't bring up who the "1" was.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:42 am to
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Bobby bowden says the coach of the losing team has an easier time getting his team motivated for the rematch


You think motivation is an issue in this final game?
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:43 am to
this is just an old NFL cliche' that keeps getting trotted out.

LSU also has the same game film to see what worked and didn't work against Bama.

I think LSU wins by double digits.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:44 am to
quote:

You think motivation is an issue in this final game?


yea for real. If a team needs more motivation for the NCG then they shouldn't be there.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:44 am to
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Bobby bowden says the coach of the losing team has an easier time getting his team motivated for the rematch


I don't see either team being "motivated" any differently on January 9 than they were on November 5.

Bama will be tight and motivated.

LSU will be a bit looser and motivated.
Posted by GeauxSaban
VA
Member since Oct 2011
124 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:45 am to
quote:

You think motivation is an issue in this final game?


Bowden said it was in his rematch with florida
Posted by Anodyne
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:47 am to
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Bowden said it was in his rematch with florida


FSU beat Florida at the end of the regular season and then got skull drug by Weurffel in the Sugar for the national title. Bowden probably knows what he is talking about in this regard.

Edit: Ironically, that rematch for the national title, ultimately led to the BCS being formed. FSU was supposed to play Arizona State for the title but ASU was contractully obligated to play in the Rose Bowl (Pat Tillman and Jake Plummber were on that team).

Funny how cyclical this world is...BCS formed to not have another rematch and 15 years later, it promotes a rematch of teams from the same division of the same conference (at least UF and FSU won their respective conferences that year).
This post was edited on 12/5/11 at 9:51 am
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:48 am to
Prob pshycological

In prep the victors are more prone to be lax

The losers are more prone to having a fire lit under their arse
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 12/5/11 at 9:50 am to
quote:


FSU beat Florida at the end of the regular season and then got skull drug by Weurffel in the Sugar for the national title. Bowden probably knows what he is talking about in this regard.



Yes, his single instance history of this is a huge determinative sample size.

We shouldn't bother showing up in New Orleans.

Thanks Bobby.
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