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UPDATED: Need to talk scopes. Learned the hard way.

Posted on 11/24/11 at 1:50 pm
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 1:50 pm
So as most of you know. I missed a Doe today. 100yds. Clean miss. That has happened twice now in two years. I thought I had just missed the first time. Then a week later I shot a spike and killed it. Thing was he was 40yds and it wasn't the best shot placement.

Well after today I shot it when I got home and could not get any sort of groping. High left. Low. Left. High right. Miss. Low right. Etc. Took 13 shots and every one of them were all over the target ( @100yds )


So now I need a scope. Shooting a Remingon 700 30-06



UPDATE:
quote:

I have narrowed it down to either the Nikon ProStaff 3x9x50 or the Redfield Revolution 3x9x50

Someone please talk me into buying either or
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 4:29 pm
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 1:54 pm to
So are you using a crappy scope now? Open sights? Is there something wrong with your gun?
Posted by flucobaseball
VA
Member since Apr 2004
6252 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 1:58 pm to
Might be the gun. That'd be some kind of awful scope to be all over the place like that. However I would recommend the Trijicon Accupoint.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 1:59 pm to
It's gotta be something loose inside the scope that's moving.
Posted by 15sammy34
Auburn, AL
Member since Oct 2011
16137 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 2:01 pm to
I know this sounds really simple, but I've seen this in guns when the screws that hold the scope in place have gotten loosened. It's kind of like the IT guy always making sure it is plugged in first, but it's always the first thing to check. Those suckers need to be tightened down as hard as you can.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16202 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 2:04 pm to
I don't know what kind of money you're looking to spend, but I saw academy had the leupold rifleman 3x9x40 for $159. It's hard to go wrong even with their low end scopes.
Posted by coloradoBengal
Member since Sep 2007
32608 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

It's gotta be something loose inside the scope that's moving.



Buy a cheap scope from Wal-Mart and see if that makes a difference. If not... you won't have wasted a bunch of money on a nice scope. If the cheap scope fixes it... save it for a .22 or something and go get the scope you want.
Posted by absolute692
US of A, MFer
Member since Feb 2007
3965 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 2:10 pm to
I shoot the exact gun as you, and I changed scopes last year before the season because my 20+ year old scope was fogging up at night.

Once I got the new scope on and bore sighted and started hitting paper, I was all over the place.

It could have something to do with the new mounts for the new scope or something, basically I just gave it to my dad and let him destroy his shoulder trying to sight it in.

I think my problem was a rookie mistake. I was adjusting my scope after every shot, when I should have been shooting groups of 3 before adjusting the scope.

For the record I bought the Leupold 3-9x50 rifleman. Wanted the VX-II but it was out of stock and the rifleman was 30 bucks cheaper. Couldn't afford the beast that is the VX-III.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 2:14 pm to
I checked the scope mounts and it doesn't budge. Has to be internal.

Where was that 3-9x40?
Posted by 4X4DEMON
NWLA
Member since Dec 2007
11957 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 2:17 pm to
I have a buddy that was having the Sam problem as you. Very inconsistent. Took the scope off and the mounts were loose.
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
16202 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 2:19 pm to
Academy has the leupold for $159, and Bass Pro has the same scope for $169 with a scope cover.
Posted by ColesCreek
SW MS
Member since Apr 2011
378 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 2:55 pm to
have you cleaned the bore? My rifle was all over the paper when I shot it this year. Cleaned the bore, and it went right back to grouping like it is supposed to.
Posted by hendrixfan
Shady Brook slough
Member since Jul 2005
3128 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 3:02 pm to
what kind of mounts you got
can't use see-thru, too much kick
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 3:07 pm to
I always have the bore clean.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 3:08 pm to
Im a leupold man. I love em.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97640 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 3:31 pm to
You let the barrel cool after every couple shots when siting it in?
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 3:47 pm to
I've got that same rifle. Make sure the stock doesn't touch the barrel. I use leupold mounts, and Leupold vari-x III. Block bedded. And I can put all the holes touching at 100 all day with it.

What they said about the screws getting loose is definitely something to check. I use a torque wrench on mine for that reason. But you've probably got a bad scope if it's that far off.
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 3:59 pm to
Get a good scope. VxII would be a good affordable option. Take scope mounts off gun. Clean all surfaces with lighter fluid and remount your rings and bases making sure everything is torqued correctly. Clean bore. Go shoot. Make sure you give yourself a few shots to foul a clean barrel before expecting tight groups.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 4:36 pm to
What kind of money are you looking at?

Bro in law just bought a Redfield Evolution online for like 150ish. Like watching HD tv.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 11/24/11 at 4:40 pm to
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