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Should Barkley now be in the Heisman discussion?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:47 am
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:47 am
Not necessarily win it, but at least mentioned.
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Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:48 am to ToesOnTheNose213
he can't win it under probation
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:49 am to ToesOnTheNose213
How many get to go to New York? 5? In no particular order:
Keenum
Richardson
Luck
RG3
Barkley
Who should go over those 5?
Keenum
Richardson
Luck
RG3
Barkley
Who should go over those 5?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:50 am to GoldenTiger85
Barkley's under probation?
Posted on 11/20/11 at 3:04 am to ToesOnTheNose213
To answer your question...yes.
Before tonight's game:
Barkley's statistics are Heisman-worthy — he has completed 247 of 370 passes for 2,782 yards and 29 touchdowns.
Luck has completed 221 of 313 passes for 2,680 yards and 29 touchdowns. He has seven interceptions, one more than Barkley.
Luck and Stanford got handled nicely last weekend by Oregon, 53-30. And that was at the Farm, not the Autzen Zoo.
So the door has cracked open for Barkley. If he is impressive against a very impressive Oregon team, they might actually have to hold a vote for the Heisman.
"The [Heisman] voters are going to take notice of that game," said Brandt, for 28 years the director of player development for the Dallas Cowboys and now an analyst on NFL.com. "You are going to see a comparison with Luck. It's big that that the game is at Oregon."
Tonight: 26/34, 323 yards 4 TD and 1 INT (wasn't really his fault, dude was held and ball was tipped.)
Before tonight's game:
Barkley's statistics are Heisman-worthy — he has completed 247 of 370 passes for 2,782 yards and 29 touchdowns.
Luck has completed 221 of 313 passes for 2,680 yards and 29 touchdowns. He has seven interceptions, one more than Barkley.
Luck and Stanford got handled nicely last weekend by Oregon, 53-30. And that was at the Farm, not the Autzen Zoo.
So the door has cracked open for Barkley. If he is impressive against a very impressive Oregon team, they might actually have to hold a vote for the Heisman.
"The [Heisman] voters are going to take notice of that game," said Brandt, for 28 years the director of player development for the Dallas Cowboys and now an analyst on NFL.com. "You are going to see a comparison with Luck. It's big that that the game is at Oregon."
Tonight: 26/34, 323 yards 4 TD and 1 INT (wasn't really his fault, dude was held and ball was tipped.)
Posted on 11/20/11 at 3:17 am to Zamoro10
Kellen Moore gets an invite as the QB with the most wins in history right? If that happens, who gets bumped from my list? RG3? Probably, so:
Keenum
Luck
Barkley
Richardson
Moore
Luck wins IMO. I doubt ESPN says anything about Richardson being held to under 100 against LSU though.
Keenum
Luck
Barkley
Richardson
Moore
Luck wins IMO. I doubt ESPN says anything about Richardson being held to under 100 against LSU though.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 3:58 am to JJ27
Replace Richardson with Moore from your original list, and keep RG3. Richardson got shut down in the second half against LSU. No way should a Heisman candidate go scoreless in the biggest game of his career.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 4:06 am to acgeaux129
quote:
Replace Richardson with Moore from your original list, and keep RG3. Richardson got shut down in the second half against LSU. No way should a Heisman candidate go scoreless in the biggest game of his career.
I just don't see them removing their favorite player.
ETA: Media constantly sucks Richardson off. Hell Danielson has shite on Ware all year when he makes a great run by ALWAYS adding, "Great play, but he's not in the same class as Trent Richardson".
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 4:09 am
Posted on 11/20/11 at 6:54 am to JJ27
quote:
Who should go over those 5?
Russell Wilson. who he replaces is debatable, but I think he's one of the top 5 players in the country.
leads the nation in passing efficiency, and I don't think there's much more he coulda done in their 2 losses. he actually led 4th qtr comebacks in both, only to have the defense lose on Hail Mary type plays.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:08 am to acgeaux129
quote:Well said, sir.
Replace Richardson with Moore from your original list, and keep RG3. Richardson got shut down in the second half against LSU. No way should a Heisman candidate go scoreless in the biggest game of his career.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 7:10 am to ToesOnTheNose213
I think so yes (and I think a lot of kiffin hatred works against barkely).
Add RG3 as well
Add RG3 as well
Posted on 11/20/11 at 8:36 am to acgeaux129
quote:
Replace Richardson with Moore from your original list, and keep RG3. Richardson got shut down in the second half against LSU. No way should a Heisman candidate go scoreless in the biggest game of his career.
Mark Ingram completely shite the bed against Auburn 2 years ago and still won the Heisman. No way should a running back that was held to 30 yards in the last regular season game be a heisman candidate.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 9:25 am to DavidSillsFightsOn
If I had to pick 5:
Montee Ball
Matt Barkley
Robert Griffin
Andrew Luck
Trent Richardson
Montee Ball
Matt Barkley
Robert Griffin
Andrew Luck
Trent Richardson
Posted on 11/20/11 at 9:33 am to ToesOnTheNose213
If you dont have RG3 on your list then you are dumb
Posted on 11/20/11 at 9:56 am to Marciano1
quote:
Montee Ball
Matt Barkley
Robert Griffin
Andrew Luck
Trent Richardson
Great choice, ive been arguing he deserves to be mentioned
Posted on 11/20/11 at 10:19 am to RLDSC FAN
What about Brandon Weedon? I'd put him above Barkley.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 10:25 am to ToesOnTheNose213
quote:
Not necessarily win it, but at least mentioned.
sure
but I think the entire LSU defense should be invited too
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:55 am to SPEEDY
quote:
"Great play, but he's not in the same class as Trent Richardson".
quote:
Mark Ingram completely shite the bed against Auburn 2 years ago and still won the Heisman. No way should a running back that was held to 30 yards in the last regular season game be a heisman candidate.
Richardson will get all the Southern media votes because that's all they vote for. It's been that way for years. They vote not on the player but "eligible player from the South" regardless if he's overrated or sucks in his biggest game. They're not honest.
This post was edited on 11/20/11 at 11:56 am
Posted on 11/20/11 at 12:00 pm to Mstate
After looking at his numbers, I think RG3 should win the award, not just get a token invite. His passing numbers are comparable to the top candidates and then you add about 800 rushing yards.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 2:47 pm to SPEEDY
quote:
Mark Ingram completely shite the bed against Auburn 2 years ago and still won the Heisman. No way should a running back that was held to 30 yards in the last regular season game be a heisman candidate.
Could not agree more. He did not deserve it either. Only Troy Smith was a more mediocre winner in the past decade.
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