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Any update on Josh Dworaczyk's chances of getting a 6th year?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:03 pm
Anybody have any info on the subject?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:05 pm to L.A.
If Case Keenum can get it, why shouldn't he? What's the rule on how they give it out?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:06 pm to nugget
quote:I'm stumped. I'm not sure how the decision is made.
What's the rule on how they give it out?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:09 pm to L.A.
Would provide nice senior depth at guard. Just imagine we'd have senior BACKUPS at guard with him and Branch.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:10 pm to L.A.
You can't apply for the medical hardship until after his eligibility runs out. So we won't know anything about this until after the season.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:14 pm to thunderbird1100
quote:Who do you see starting at guard next season?
Would provide nice senior depth at guard. Just imagine we'd have senior BACKUPS at guard with him and Branch
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:14 pm to jturn17
quote:Ok, thanks.
You can't apply for the medical hardship until after his eligibility runs out. So we won't know anything about this until after the season.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:25 pm to L.A.
quote:Williford and Collins. I think Josh D is done. JMO.
Who do you see starting at guard next season?
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:26 pm to Gravitiger
quote:Could be. Or Hurst can move inside to G and Collins could start at T.
Williford and Collins.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:28 pm to nugget
quote:
What's the rule on how they give it out?
JD will be applying for a 6th year, and by the stated guidelines he would not be eligible. However, when the subject was first broached, an LSU official was quoted as saying that the committee that decides these things is being more lenient and they have the discretion to do so. If so, a 5th yr sr who missed the entire year is an ideal case to be lenient.
The stated guidelines would require JD to have missed 2 years for reasons beyond his control before he would be granted a 6th year. His redshirt year would not count.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:30 pm to thunderbird1100
Stud would find a way to start Josh D just like he does for T Bob. they are the 3 best friends anyone could ever have.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:33 pm to L.A.
Found this info on the interwebz (apologies for the blocking issues):
MEDICAL HARDSHIPS
In athletics, injuries and illnesses are matter of when and to whom, not if. When injuries occur, the media and supporters of a college program often discuss the consequences of that injury and
speculate about a student-athlete’s recourses. Phrases such as “medical hardship” and “extension
of the five-year clock” (i.e., extension of eligibility, clock extension, etc.) are commonly heard or seen in newspaper articles or other forums. However, they are not the same; medical hardships and extensions of the five-year clock are two distinct concepts and qualifying for and applying for one entails a process and issues different from the other.
To understand medical hardships and extensions of the five-year clock, the following knowledge
is prerequisite: on the Division I level of the NCAA, student-athletes have five years within
which to participate in four seasons of competition (i.e., a five year clock). Any amount of participation in a competition will trigger the use of a season of competition. If a student-athlete redshirts (i.e., does not compete), but is healthy then that is a year charged against the student-athlete’s five-year clock but not a season of competition.
Similarly, if a student-athlete participates in only one contest near the end of the season, but was healthy for the entire year, that student-athlete has used one season of competition and one year of his or her five-year clock (the five-year clock begins once the student-athlete enrolls full-time in a two- or four-year institution and is tolled only in cases of U.S, military service, church missions and other specifically designated forms of service). But what if over the next two years the student-athlete successively incurs season-ending injuries? Does the student-athlete qualify
for a medical hardship and/or an extension of his eligibility? As for a medical hardship, the
answer depends on the circumstances.
A medical hardship is a form of relief that a university’s student-athlete will receive after a
university’s application to the conference only if:
• the student-athlete’s injury or illness was incapacitating;
• the student-athlete’s incapacitating injury or illness occurred during the first half of the
season and before competition in more then two contests or 20% of the season’s
scheduled contests (whichever is greater); and
• the injury or illness is supported by contemporaneous medical documentation.
If 20% of a season is a fraction (2.4), the fraction is rounded up to the next whole number. If successful, the effect of the medical hardship is that the student-athlete’s participation does not result in the use of a season of competition; nevertheless, the year that has passed does count
against the student-athlete’s five-year clock.
EXTENSION OF ELIGIBILITY
An application for an extension of his five-year clock is much rarer and more difficult to attain.
For an extension request to be successful, the institution requesting it on behalf of the studentathlete
must prove that the student-athlete was deprived of more than one season of competition
for reasons beyond his or her control. For example, a student-athlete could have been forced to withdraw from school for two years to help support his family or to care for an ailing parent. More commonly, the basis for an extension request is incapacitating injury. In cases of injury, the institution must show that the student-athlete suffered injuries or illnesses that prevented him or her from competing for two seasons.
Based on this criteria, I do not think Josh D. would get an extension of his five-year eligibility window, because he was not incapacitated for two playing seasons.
MEDICAL HARDSHIPS
In athletics, injuries and illnesses are matter of when and to whom, not if. When injuries occur, the media and supporters of a college program often discuss the consequences of that injury and
speculate about a student-athlete’s recourses. Phrases such as “medical hardship” and “extension
of the five-year clock” (i.e., extension of eligibility, clock extension, etc.) are commonly heard or seen in newspaper articles or other forums. However, they are not the same; medical hardships and extensions of the five-year clock are two distinct concepts and qualifying for and applying for one entails a process and issues different from the other.
To understand medical hardships and extensions of the five-year clock, the following knowledge
is prerequisite: on the Division I level of the NCAA, student-athletes have five years within
which to participate in four seasons of competition (i.e., a five year clock). Any amount of participation in a competition will trigger the use of a season of competition. If a student-athlete redshirts (i.e., does not compete), but is healthy then that is a year charged against the student-athlete’s five-year clock but not a season of competition.
Similarly, if a student-athlete participates in only one contest near the end of the season, but was healthy for the entire year, that student-athlete has used one season of competition and one year of his or her five-year clock (the five-year clock begins once the student-athlete enrolls full-time in a two- or four-year institution and is tolled only in cases of U.S, military service, church missions and other specifically designated forms of service). But what if over the next two years the student-athlete successively incurs season-ending injuries? Does the student-athlete qualify
for a medical hardship and/or an extension of his eligibility? As for a medical hardship, the
answer depends on the circumstances.
A medical hardship is a form of relief that a university’s student-athlete will receive after a
university’s application to the conference only if:
• the student-athlete’s injury or illness was incapacitating;
• the student-athlete’s incapacitating injury or illness occurred during the first half of the
season and before competition in more then two contests or 20% of the season’s
scheduled contests (whichever is greater); and
• the injury or illness is supported by contemporaneous medical documentation.
If 20% of a season is a fraction (2.4), the fraction is rounded up to the next whole number. If successful, the effect of the medical hardship is that the student-athlete’s participation does not result in the use of a season of competition; nevertheless, the year that has passed does count
against the student-athlete’s five-year clock.
EXTENSION OF ELIGIBILITY
An application for an extension of his five-year clock is much rarer and more difficult to attain.
For an extension request to be successful, the institution requesting it on behalf of the studentathlete
must prove that the student-athlete was deprived of more than one season of competition
for reasons beyond his or her control. For example, a student-athlete could have been forced to withdraw from school for two years to help support his family or to care for an ailing parent. More commonly, the basis for an extension request is incapacitating injury. In cases of injury, the institution must show that the student-athlete suffered injuries or illnesses that prevented him or her from competing for two seasons.
Based on this criteria, I do not think Josh D. would get an extension of his five-year eligibility window, because he was not incapacitated for two playing seasons.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:36 pm to Gravitiger
quote:
Based on this criteria, I do not think Josh D. would get an extension of his five-year eligibility window, because he was not incapacitated for two playing seasons.
I think they're gonna try and argue that he had an injury his redshirt yr., which I think technically may be true. just may not have been incapacitatingly bad.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:38 pm to L.A.
Didn't Garret Gilbert get one this year after having already played in 2 games? Don't know the circumstances though.
ETA: I don't know if the transfer to another school aslo factors in here?
If this is the case, JD should be able to.
ETA: I don't know if the transfer to another school aslo factors in here?
If this is the case, JD should be able to.
This post was edited on 11/8/11 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:38 pm to L.A.
quote:
Or Hurst can move inside to G and Collins could start at T.
no way in Hell.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:39 pm to Maximus
quote:
Stud would find a way to start Josh D just like he does for T Bob. they are the 3 best friends anyone could ever have.
....and another popcorn fart was heard from the corner of the room....
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:42 pm to Gravitiger
quote:While I agree with you based upon the wording, too many guys have been given a 6th year with a true redshirt. Keenum is one. There are more out there. Lots of discretion there.
Based on this criteria, I do not think Josh D. would get an extension of his five-year eligibility window, because he was not incapacitated for two playing seasons.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:45 pm to AlxTgr
didnt charles alexander get 6 years?
Also, I think kentrell kocket at ole miss, the DE from hahnville, got 6 years too.
Also, I think kentrell kocket at ole miss, the DE from hahnville, got 6 years too.
Posted on 11/8/11 at 3:47 pm to LsuTool
I wish we had gotten Greg Robinson. I know we have talent, but that depth would help.
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