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To All CFB fans regarding the NCAA

Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:10 pm
Posted by Trojan Ace
Reality
Member since Nov 2005
4004 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:10 pm
All:

A group of lobbyist, including myself, have begun a consortium to fight the NCAA and its arbitrary handling of matters regarding all institutions and sports affiliated with college athletics.

To update everyone on what has transpired thus far, here is where this stands.

1. An AmLaw 100 legal firm has been engaged and has agreed to represent this group once it has been formally established, and all filings for its status as an entity are completed.
2. An international public relations group has also agreed to handle all media and awareness of this group once formally established.
3. A leading think tank and lobbying group has also agreed to be involved in the handling of legislative matters in regards to the mission of this group.
4. Other research and strategic programs have begun.
5. Engagement of possible persons and groups with interest in the mission of this group has also begun.

One thing that needs to be made clear in this process is that this is not just about the University of Southern California and the sanctions levied on the Trojans. This is about oversight of all athletics under the umbrella of the NCAA.

With that in mind, try to engage and make aware as many people as you can from all universities. Our goal right now is to have people talking about this.

Again this is not just about USC. This is about UCLA, Notre Dame, Texas, LSU, Florida, Penn State, Ohio State, and all institutions of higher learning being policed by a system of mandates where the punishment in many instances does not fit the issues at hand. One of the first goals of this group is also the immediate suspension of the enforcement of all penalties currently being instituted on all sports programs at NCAA member schools.

I will give updates as they become available. If there are any questions, please feel free to ask them of me. I will make a sincere effort to answer them in the best possible way.

Thank you!
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:12 pm to
Sounds like sour grapes to me. And nothing is going to be done about this in the next 15 years so.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:12 pm to
So how were these lobbyists selected?
Posted by GoldenBoy
Winning!
Member since Nov 2004
42010 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:12 pm to
I support you.
Posted by Trojan Ace
Reality
Member since Nov 2005
4004 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

So how were these lobbyists selected?


It's DC. People know people, and thus people talk about things.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90510 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

One thing that needs to be made clear in this process is that this is not just about the University of Southern California and the sanctions levied on the Trojans.


yea ok.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76519 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

One of the first goals of this group is also the immediate suspension of the enforcement of all penalties currently being instituted on all sports programs at NCAA member schools.


I love this part.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80777 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:51 pm to
Sounds like a group of USCers are butthurt


I wish the NCAA would have been more involved with Scam Newton IMO
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:53 pm to
Great. Just what everything needs...more lawyers and lobbyists.
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

One of the first goals of this group is also the immediate suspension of the enforcement of all penalties currently being instituted on all sports programs at NCAA member schools.
No punishments mean no rules. Welcome to the wild, wild west.

And no, I don't support your effort.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:01 pm to
A) If you want to play in the NCAA, you have to play by their rules.

B) If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36180 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:07 pm to
U mad?
Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
Member since Sep 2003
49645 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:12 pm to
quote:

One of the first goals of this group is also the immediate suspension of the enforcement of all penalties currently being instituted on all sports programs at NCAA member schools.


Good way to alienate people who might have otherwise been on your side. I'm fairly anti-NCAA, but there's no way I'd support a lobbyist group whose first goal is to suspend all penalties. That's ludicrous.
Posted by LaBornNRaised
Loomis blows
Member since Feb 2011
11004 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:21 pm to
Sounds like a whole lot of B.S. from the start.

Why would all current penalties be done away with?

I think its a good cause but if you have already been proven a cheater, why should your punishment not be enforced?

Now if you want to change things from here on forward then yea great cause. If not, stop being butt-hurt and don't cheat anymore.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

A) If you want to play in the NCAA, you have to play by their rules.

B) If you can't do the time, don't do the crime.


This is childish and would only make sense if "the time" wasn't disparate or the "crimes" arbitrarily enforced or the rules disproportionately applied.

Or even better, ex post facto laws/rules like the NCAA created for USC...which in your dopey real world criminal sing-song slogan are illegal.

Why don't you go tell black people in the South who lived through the 60's that if they wanted to eat in a restaurant in Alabama they had to play by their rules.

The University of Southern California and all other universities across this country don't fork over their due process rights because they happen to play sports...just like you don't waive your fourth amendment right to privacy when you buy an airplane ticket...but I guess you suppose that you should.

The NCAA isn't God...they are just a bunch of stuffed shirts like the good folks at Enron - failing miserably in their oversight duties and reform is needed like in any business.

You're wasting your time posting this Trojan Ace; most CFB fans here think in petty terms of program vs. program...and giggle gleefully when the Spanish Inquisition comes calling. They don't want to admit the NCAA has major oversight issues because they've bowed down to this fraud for years.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 9:43 pm
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
Member since Aug 2009
9602 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:42 pm to
As a Lobbiest I don't guess you have ever heard of full disclosure? I get the feeling I am not getting all the sides.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90510 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Again this is not just about USC.


this group just so happened to form right after USC got shite on by the NCAA, but its not about just USC
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

Zamoro10


quote:

Why don't you go tell black people in the South who lived through the 60's that if they wanted to eat in a restaurant in Alabama they had to play by their rules.


wow, talk about a terrible, pathetic, and completely unrelated comparison
Posted by GeauxTigersLee
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2010
4644 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

They don't want to admit the NCAA has major oversight issues.
I think most would actually agree with this, but to suspend all current sanctions for any school is ludicrous. You can argue that rules aren't enforced equally (I don't agree regarding USC), but the fact remains that schools under sanctions were caught breaking NCAA rules.
This post was edited on 6/16/11 at 9:53 pm
Posted by LSUtigersarefun
Member since Aug 2009
9602 posts
Posted on 6/16/11 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

The NCAA has major oversight issues.

And police don't catch every murder, but we don't let the guilty ones go because we didn't catch another one.
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