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Rye grass removal

Posted on 5/24/11 at 9:55 pm
Posted by snake2985
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 9:55 pm
Does anyone know how to get rid of rye grass in my backyard, it took over during the winter, and will not die out. It is really choking out the centipede that is underneath. Any advice?
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39422 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 9:59 pm to
Have you done any fertilizing recently? If so, the nutrients may only be getting to the rye grass and not the Bermuda or whatever you have underneath.
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 10:00 pm to
Cut it short?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 10:02 pm to
Rye grass is a cool season crop and should be seeded out and dying with the heat lately. You should be about done with it.

It usually draws a lot of moisture and makes the ground as hard as a wedding dick.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39422 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Cut it short?


That's probably a safe start. Lower the blade all the way and hack it all. It could give the good grass some warm soil to grow in.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
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Posted on 5/24/11 at 10:09 pm to
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Cut it short



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Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/24/11 at 10:17 pm to
Where are you located? If you don't want to say, what are the temperature highs in your area?
Posted by snake2985
Member since Jan 2011
334 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 8:32 am to
Im in the Baton Rouge region. I would like to get rid of it permanently if you have any other suggestions.
Posted by fishcityrube
Member since Mar 2011
105 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 9:10 am to
quote:

Im in the Baton Rouge region. I would like to get rid of it permanently if you have any other suggestions.


If it is actually rye grass it will burn off soon. It shouldn't come back unless you plant it. How did it get there if you didn't put the seed out?
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 9:21 am to
With the heat and lack of rain we've been having lately, that stuff should be dying.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12087 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 9:33 am to
Cutting your grass too short in this drought could kill or damage the good grass. Rye should be about over with for the year. Did you plant the rye?
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 1:45 pm to
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Im in the Baton Rouge region. I would like to get rid of it permanently if you have any other suggestions.
Well rye grass is one of the few "throw and grow" types of plants. If this one you're fighting with didn't make seed head/seed out you shouldn't have any next year.

If you are getting the seed from wind dispersal or runoff from a neighbor you might. Good thing is it's easy to rid yourself of it.

Put 1 ounze of Roundup - or any herbicide with "Glycophosphate" as the active ingredient- per gallon of water and spray it as soon as it is growing in the fall/winter.

We usually planted it for winter pastures in October but I've also broadcast it by overseeding and had good stands without breaking the ground. I say that to point out that in your yard without preparing a sedbed, you will see it later as in late November or early December, I'm going to guess. Doesn't matter, just spray it before it goes to seed.
This post was edited on 5/25/11 at 1:46 pm
Posted by LSUDad
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Posted on 5/25/11 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

Well rye grass is one of the few "throw and grow" types of plants. If this one you're fighting with didn't make seed head/seed out you shouldn't have any next year.


It( the seed) will stay dormant through the summer. As for now, just don't let it form a seed head. If it goes to seed, you'll have the same thing next year. Cut you grass normally, the heat will let the rye die out.
Posted by fishcityrube
Member since Mar 2011
105 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 3:21 pm to

Also, vomit while you're heavily intoxicated will kill it. First hand experience.
Posted by snake2985
Member since Jan 2011
334 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

Put 1 ounze of Roundup - or any herbicide with "Glycophosphate" as the active ingredient- per gallon of water and spray it as soon as it is growing in the fall/winter.


Will this kill the centipede as well?
Posted by dpark
Northeast LA
Member since Feb 2011
941 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 6:07 pm to
I would steer clear of spraying glyphosate due to the fact that it is selective for grass and you will take the chance of killing both centipede and rye. Your pretty much between a rock and hard place, but this late in the season I would recommend cutting the grass short and limiting water. With the dry conditions and heat you will see the grass begin to die within a week or so. Only other option is expensive herbicides but you will also need a commercial applicators licenses to purchase these chemicals.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 6:17 pm to
quote:

Will this kill the centipede as well?
Centipede grows in the winter? I am talking about spraying the rye grass when that is all that's growing. I
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 5/25/11 at 6:23 pm to
quote:

I would steer clear of spraying glyphosate due to the fact that it is selective for grass and you will take the chance of killing both centipede and rye. Your pretty much between a rock and hard place,
No, he's actually out of the woods now. Like I said earlier, hopefully it didn't seed out so he won't have to contend with it next fall/winter but the glyco will take care of it if it does return.


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but this late in the season I would recommend cutting the grass short and limiting water.
OMG. That would definitely put his "good" grass in danger. TERRIBLE advice.

Never want to cut grass short, ESPECIALLY in a drought, add in limiting water...sheesh.

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Only other option is expensive herbicides
Like what? There is no herbicide to spray on rye at this time of the year. I haven't seen a live stalk of rye for several weeks as it is.

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but you will also need a commercial applicators licenses to purchase these chemicals.
Negative. Pesticide license but doesn't have to be a "Commercial applicator's" that's for certain. Also, many of the chemicals that one needs a "license" to purchase can be gotten in smaller portions without the license. 2-4-D for example, anyone can buy a quart of it.
Posted by dpark
Northeast LA
Member since Feb 2011
941 posts
Posted on 5/26/11 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Like what? There is no herbicide to spray on rye at this time of the year. I haven't seen a live stalk of rye for several weeks as it is.

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Atrazine early in the season but too hot now

quote:

OMG. That would definitely put his "good" grass in danger. TERRIBLE advice.

Wrong again.....you can cut grass in a drought just can't scalp it......limit water not completely stop irrigating

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Negative. Pesticide license but doesn't have to be a "Commercial applicator's" that's for certain. Also, many of the chemicals that one needs a "license" to purchase can be gotten in smaller portions without the license. 2-4-D for example, anyone can buy a quart of it


Your right about the commercial licenses but will need a private applicator for SOME chemicals.
2,4-D is an exception but for the most part if a chemical is labeled RUP it dosen't matter if you buy an ounce or gallon you still need a license. Some co-ops will put these chemicals in smaller containers and sell to the general public...which is highly illegal

Oh by the way I have a MS in Agronomy (Research Emphasis in turfgrass management) and manage a 36 acre athletic field complex. Not to be a jerk but I think I know a thing or two about grass and the new chemicals on the market to control such things as ryegrass. Oh and if you plan to spray round up in the fall when grass is dormant make sure its truly dormant becuase if not you loose all you desired grass.....happens all the time at golf courses when they think the grass is dormant the spray and kill the green in the process.
Posted by snake2985
Member since Jan 2011
334 posts
Posted on 5/26/11 at 1:24 pm to
Thanks for the advice. I'll deal with it next winter if it returns.
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