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re: Top 10 Greatest 5-tool Baseball Players in History
Posted on 4/23/11 at 1:02 am to Poodlebrain
Posted on 4/23/11 at 1:02 am to Poodlebrain
Are you really the best 5-tool player ever if you can't throw out Sid Bream? Isn't it the best players who had no glaring weakness in any of the 5 tools?
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Posted on 4/23/11 at 6:12 am to Zamoro10
Since one of the tools is POWER, how can anyone include Ichiro in this list?
Posted on 4/23/11 at 7:35 am to Hot Carl
Roberto Clemente, anyone?
Posted on 4/23/11 at 7:57 am to Zamoro10
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Are you really the best 5-tool player ever if you can't throw out Sid Bream?
Stan Musial
Manny Ramierz
Ryne Sandberg
YAZ
Tony Oliva
Frank Robinson
Dick Allen
Orlando Cepeda
Posted on 4/23/11 at 8:40 am to Jcorye1
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Ricky Henderson doesn't understand how hes not in this thread.
was never a good fielder
Posted on 4/23/11 at 9:35 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Since one of the tools is POWER, how can anyone include Ichiro in this list?
The guy can hit for power when he wants to, it's kind of scary.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 9:41 am to Sophandros
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Roberto Clemente, anyone?
didnt read shite, did ya?
Posted on 4/23/11 at 9:45 am to tigernchicago
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Mickey Mantle pre leg injuries was the most talented baseball player of all time.
Willie Mays was the best baseball plyer I have ever seen play.
1A & 1B in my mind. And I'm not sure who I would make 1A.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 9:48 am to dukke v
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Manny Ramierz
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YAZ
Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:30 am to Jcorye1
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Jcorye1
My list is PREMO!!! Look at it again. PLUS say what you want Manny is one of the best right-handed hitters in HISTORY.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:56 am to dukke v
He's a fantastic hitter, he was just a horrid defender for most of his career. His speed is pretty bad too.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 10:58 am to dukke v
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PLUS say what you want Manny is one of the best right-handed hitters in HISTORY.
Yes he is PJ but this is a thread about 5-Tool players, not just hitters. Manny does not belong on this list.
This post was edited on 4/23/11 at 10:59 am
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:06 am to Jcorye1
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The guy can hit for power when he wants to, it's kind of scary.
As great as Ichiro is he doesnt qualify to be a 5 tool player. His comparison would be more of a Rod Carew, Tony Gwynn, Wade Boggs type imo.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:11 am to RLDSC FAN
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Manny does not belong on
Nor does Sandberg.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 11:38 am to Zamoro10
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Are you really the best 5-tool player ever if you can't throw out Sid Bream? Isn't it the best players who had no glaring weakness in any of the 5 tools?
I was reading through the list seeing if anyone had already posted this.
In case some don't know, this refers to the Pirates-Braves series in the NL Championship Series in 1992. Sid Bream scored the winning run from second (doing his best Mark Teixeira waddling/running imitation) and beat the nothing less than pathetic throw from Bonds in left.
Bonds was a 4 1/2 tool player -- average arm.
I think Micky Mantle, before he stepped on the drain and screwed up is knee (which never got fixed), was the most talented 5 tool player to ever play. At 200 pounds, he could go from home to first in 3.2 seconds, and hit a 565 foot tape measure home run.
In 1956 at the age of 24, he hit .353 with 52 homers and 130 RBI's. His OPS was 1.169.
Most of the highlights you see of him are from later in his career, when he was hobbling around on one leg.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 12:00 pm to bomber77
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As great as Ichiro is he doesnt qualify to be a 5 tool player. His comparison would be more of a Rod Carew, Tony Gwynn, Wade Boggs type
3 of those 4 had speed, Boggs doesn't belong in this discussion.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 12:10 pm to COTiger
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Nor does Sandberg.
You just mad cause YOU didn't think of him 1st!!!!!
Posted on 4/23/11 at 12:45 pm to TigerintheNO
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As great as Ichiro is he doesnt qualify to be a 5 tool player. His comparison would be more of a Rod Carew, Tony Gwynn, Wade Boggs type
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3 of those 4 had speed, Boggs doesn't belong in this discussion.
My point was all dont qualify for the 5 tool discussion. All were high average guys but really banjo type hitters including Ichiro.
Posted on 4/23/11 at 1:03 pm to Jcorye1
quote:he didn't come anywhere close to 20 steals/year
I think Yaz is the answer here.
he averaged 7.3 /year
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