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help catching channel catfish

Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:53 am
Posted by papt99
south louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
891 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:53 am
tell me what you would do. Just got access to a lake that has a lot of channel cats. It's private so any and all methods are available. Lake is 6 to 12 ft deep, has cypress trees, a bayou running through it, canals, open water, docks, etc. what would your setup be to maximize catches of channel cats? I am interested in what bait, how deep to set the line, where to set it, etc. we've caught some on rodnreel with worms under corks, a few on yoyos and a few on trot lines baited with shiners and worms but nothing consistent.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:55 am to
Maybe try some cut bait. Mullet if you can get them or even perch.
Posted by SCUBABlake
RIP WT6
Member since Jan 2008
40338 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:58 am to
Trotlines with chicken livers.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81642 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 9:59 am to
Night crawlers, whole small crawfish or peeled tails from large crawfish on a rig with bell sinker at bottom and hook 5-8" above on a loop. I grew up bank fishing with my dad for these, and this worked very well.
Posted by lsaltee
poppin a tent, roastin marshmellows
Member since Sep 2007
3634 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:01 am to
we always used duck guts, livers, gizzards. really anything thats smells terrible. We always used jugs for the best result.

Set them in the afternoon and check them in the morning.

Also, the "catfish bait" from academy has never worked for me.
Posted by papt99
south louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
891 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:03 am to
there are also goo, which I hear will hammer any crawfish baited lines, and we don't want those at all. The trot line we have tried is not set on the bottom. it's tied across a feeder canal that is ~12ft deep but the line is definitely not on the bottom. I am thinking of setting a line in the bayou, on the bottom with worms or chicken hearts or other innards.
Posted by datFNpinto
Battin Rewage
Member since Feb 2005
455 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:15 am to
Noodling
Posted by datFNpinto
Battin Rewage
Member since Feb 2005
455 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:16 am to
whoops double post
This post was edited on 4/6/11 at 10:17 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81642 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:25 am to
quote:

there are also goo, which I hear will hammer any crawfish baited lines, and we don't want those at all.
I consider goo a bonus, but to each his own.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29308 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:31 am to
Take a pole with a small hook and catch a bunch of small bream. Then, use the bream as bait. If the bream are too big to simply use like oversized minnows, either cut them up for bait or eat the bream.
Posted by Slickback
Deer Stand
Member since Mar 2008
27684 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:38 am to
If you have a boat, put a bunch of jug lines out. Bait with anything that stinks. I've caught them on liver, melt, heart, cut shad, etc.

Set them out and then go fish around the cypress trees with a rod and reel. For that I'd bait with crawfish tails or nightcrawlers. Fish for an hour or two and then go check your jug lines. Re-set them and repeat.

Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 10:40 am to
What is the goal?

to catch dinner?

to have fun catching fish?

to empty the lake of catfish?

Posted by papt99
south louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
891 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:35 am to
well the goal is to catch enough to eat. I much prefer bass fishing so I would like to catch the cats on lines. The lake does have an over abundance of the catfish from what the older members say, so catching a bunch is fine. They are very good eating. filleted a few along with a few bass and sacs and really couldn't tell the difference between them when fried. mostly it's just to pass the time while spending the weekend there jet skiing and fishing bass and sacs. oh, and the lake is 3 mile, so no worry of emptying it of fish. It's not for population control.
This post was edited on 4/6/11 at 11:37 am
Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:38 am to
ok, so that removes a few options like black walnut husks, and car batteries.

jug/noodle lines with the bait 18" below the jug.

use fish guts/parts for bait.
Posted by papt99
south louisiana
Member since Jun 2007
891 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:46 am to
"jug/noodle lines with the bait 18" below the jug. " wow, I was thinking the bait should be maybe 18" from the bottom. proves how much help I need. so you would go jug>18"below to bait>weight on the bottom. set in evening with hearts, liver, bream, etc. and then check in the morning. this would be easy because the camp is on a very clean and long canal so keeping up with the jugs would be relatively easy.

Posted by Bleeding purple
Athens, Texas
Member since Sep 2007
25315 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:48 am to
noodle section 8-12 inches,

24" line

bait on hook at 18-24 " down. if not live biat no weight is needed. let it move with the wind/current.
Posted by faxis
La.
Member since Oct 2007
7773 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 11:51 am to
Want them shallow so they don't get hung up. The cats will come up when they feed.

We always just hung out in the boat or on the dock and watched them. One would go down, we'd grab it, rebait it, throw it back out. Spend all night at it. If you let them go all night on the line they tend to get hung up in shite you can't get them out of the next day or get off.
Posted by indytiger
baton rouge/indy
Member since Oct 2004
9834 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 2:19 pm to
Maybe some of the old timers on here can help me out...I remember reading a thread a few years ago about a catfish "miracle" bait. It was some kind of soap made in Mexico, and I guess you ball it up, put it on the hook, and the cats go to town. I remember treedawg vouching for it.

ETA: Just looked it up, it's called Zote soap. Apparently its made with a bunch of animal fat and works real good on a trot line or jug line (slow fishing). Don't use it on a rod and reel though.

Oh, and do ya'll know the best way to cook a shoepick? Place the fish on a cypress board, and sprinkle some tonys on it, some butter, and some lemon juice. Place the board on the grill and let it cook for about 1/2 an hour. When the time has finished, toss out the fish and eat the board. Hardy har har.
This post was edited on 4/6/11 at 2:24 pm
Posted by NBamaAlum
Soul Patrolville
Member since Jan 2009
27604 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 2:22 pm to
I've seen Ivory be used with success.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81642 posts
Posted on 4/6/11 at 2:42 pm to
What about
quote:

Redneck's Catfish Soap
?

Redneck's Catfish Bait Soap is a homemade catfish bait that is handmade one batch at a time in Saginaw Texas.

The bait is made from a 65 year old recipe that was designed to be used for catfish bait, and not for washing with. The first thing people usually ask me is "Is it really soap?" and the answer is yes, it really is. But it is not like a traditional soap that you would use for washing your clothes or body with, as it is much softer so it will go on a hook and not crumble, and it is packed with fish attractants to draw the fish in and get them to bite.


quote:

People have been fishing with soap for years. Many of them were homemade recipes that were made on ranches and farms throughout the south, and then later in years many began using a popular soap made by proctor and gamble or "p&g soap" but it is no longer made. There are a few other soaps that are sold commerically in grocery stores for washing clothes and bathing that people attempt to use as bait with poor results, because they do not have the right texture, and ingredients!

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