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Newton Vs. JRussell
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:52 am
Whats everyones opinion on these two and their passing accuracy coming out of college? Obviously JR had a missile for an arm and was decently accurate in college. His work ethic ultimately killed him. Total waste IMO. Newton more of a threat on the ground, but im not impressed with his throwing mechanics or accuracy either. Will his ability to run help him overall in the passing game? IMHO I dont think Newton will translate well in the NFL. Thoughts?
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:55 am to RAGINTIGER
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Newton Vs. JRussell
Ive got them as both black QB's that will go high in the draft. Thats about it as far as the way they play/played the game.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 11:55 am to RAGINTIGER
I think he has a shot if they don't try too hard to make him into a drop back passer. If you have a guy that can run you have to let him run.
They basically ruined Vick in Atl by trying to make him more of a drop back passer.
They basically ruined Vick in Atl by trying to make him more of a drop back passer.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:00 pm to RAGINTIGER
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Obviously JR had a missile for an arm and was decently accurate in college.
??? Decently?
Jamarcus had one of the highest completion rates in SEC history
67.8 5th All Time SEC for a season (2006)
61.7 9th All Time SEC career
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:07 pm to LSU Fan 90812
Thanks Karma..lol. What was Newtons? Point being, JR was, as you pointed out, a good/great passer in college whereas Newton struggled at times. Without accuracy I dont know if Newton will make it. But then again, Vick has proven me wrong on that as well.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:27 pm to bomber77
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Ive got them as both black QB's that will go high in the draft. Thats about it as far as the way they play/played the game.
They both played in the SEC for a team with the nickname "Tigers".
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:30 pm to RAGINTIGER
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Thanks Karma..lol. What was Newtons? Point being, JR was, as you pointed out, a good/great passer in college whereas Newton struggled at times. Without accuracy I dont know if Newton will make it. But then again, Vick has proven me wrong on that as well.
I think Newton has a stronger work ethic and relates better to his teammates. And Newton has that Vince Youngian ability to just make plays happen with his feet which will always help.
Some one will take a chance on him.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:31 pm to RAGINTIGER
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Obviously JR had a missile for an arm and was decently accurate in college.
Completed nearly 68% of his passes for over 9YPA. He was more than "decently accurate".
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:34 pm to RAGINTIGER
his throwing mechanics are basically perfect. im not sure what you are watching
eta: not to mention his 66% completion and 182 qb rating.
eta: not to mention his 66% completion and 182 qb rating.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:47 pm to RAGINTIGER
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Newton more of a threat on the ground, but im not impressed with his throwing mechanics
Newton's biggest obstacle will be learning to read defenses. If he does okay with that, he will be a great NFL QB. If he can't do it at all, he won't last long. His throwing mechanics are as good as anyone's.
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:52 pm to RAGINTIGER
I think Newton will be a better NFL QB, now will he go the way of Steve McNair or Vince Young. Mike Vick has had a good bit of success since going to Philly by being more of a pocket passer even though he still runs a great bit. I think Newton's passing ability is just simply over looked because of his ability to run. When he was forced to throw in college I think he was good, just not really good. They whole offense revolved around him following several lead blocks and let him get into space. He wasn't really asked to win games with his arm.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:53 pm to Kracka
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I think Newton will be a better NFL QB,
Thats really hanging it out there!!
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:54 pm to RAGINTIGER
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Vick has proven me wrong on that as well.
Uhwhat? Vick looked ultra sharp this year.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:55 pm to bomber77
unless he goes to the raiders... probably so
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:57 pm to molsusports
Newton is the next Russell. Overhyped overrated had one great year (Russell had two) and people are hailing him as the next coming. At least Russell was in more of a pro style offense.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 12:59 pm to audodger
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Newton's biggest obstacle will be learning to read
Posted on 3/23/11 at 1:03 pm to GamecockAlum
cam has won everywhere hes been. he hasnt just had "one good year"
Posted on 3/23/11 at 1:06 pm to bomber77
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Thats really hanging it out there!!
I know, I am all about innovation!
This post was edited on 3/23/11 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 3/23/11 at 1:18 pm to Kracka
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Uhwhat? Vick looked ultra sharp this year.
Agreed..but he has had his struggles over the years.
Posted on 3/23/11 at 1:24 pm to auzach91
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cam has won everywhere hes been. he hasnt just had "one good year
He started one season at a D I-A school. Let's not act like he proved himself for multiple seasons. Let's also not pretend that he wasn't in a very unique, college-exclusive offense that has to no overlap with ANY NFL offense.
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