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College football rule change proposals

Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:09 am
Posted by TigerNut1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
304 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:09 am
Sorry if already posted, but WBRZ.com reports some CFB rule changes. One of them is a 10 second run off on penalties under 1:00 in game.

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Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28363 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 10:40 am to
Or what will be known as the UT-UNC rule
Posted by Weaver
Madisonville, LA
Member since Nov 2005
27722 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:12 am to
That rule would not have effected LSU in the UT game as the game cannot end on a defensive penalty, so the penalty would have been called anyway. Now if there were less than 10 seconds and LSU had a penalty, then we would have lost under the new rule. Am I understanding that correctly?
Posted by Tiger55
Gretna, LA
Member since Aug 2004
1447 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:22 am to
that's how I read it.
Posted by BigEdLSU
All around the south
Member since Sep 2010
20268 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 11:23 am to
it should have been done
Posted by jholme9
Houston, TX
Member since Jul 2004
411 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

The committee also issued a reminder that beginning this fall unsportsmanlike conduct penalties occurring before a player scores will be assessed from the spot, taking away potential touchdowns.


This one is aggravating... they're already too touchy on calling excessive celebration/unsportsmanlike penalties as players are going into the end zone. Now they're going to over-penalize them, take the TD away, AND send them back 15 yards??? Stupid...
Posted by Big Pun
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
3504 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

That rule would not have effected LSU in the UT game


no, but huge in the UT-UNC Music City Bowl game.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:15 pm to
So wait, a defensive team up with 12 seconds to go in the came could commit a penalty, causing the clock to go down to 2? How the frick does this make sense?
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1591 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

This one is aggravating... they're already too touchy on calling excessive celebration/unsportsmanlike penalties as players are going into the end zone. Now they're going to over-penalize them, take the TD away, AND send them back 15 yards??? Stupid...


This will absolutely be the most controversial penalty in the history of football.

Unlike holding penalties which can reasonably be articulated by line judges/refs, and which occur on just about every down, but amidst a large cluster of players on the field, the new unsportsmanlike will be completely arbitrary, completely subjective, and will change the outcome of games. A salute to the crowd following a touchdown in one game will be called by one set of officials. A chest-pumping, shirt-pulling, dogpile in the endzone by a group of players will be overlooked in another. This rule has no place in a game where one loss is the difference between playing in the championship game and going to a non-BCS bowl.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9581 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

So wait, a defensive team up with 12 seconds to go in the came could commit a penalty, causing the clock to go down to 2? How the frick does this make sense?


wow...i think your right...
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16446 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:25 pm to
I wish they would address the rule about the runner not being down unless touched. This could increase big plays,it seems to happen in every game.
Posted by buzz1954LSU
Church Point, La.
Member since Nov 2009
624 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

So wait, a defensive team up with 12 seconds to go in the came could commit a penalty, causing the clock to go down to 2? How the frick does this make sense?


It needs to read "offensive penalties".
Posted by jmath23lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
811 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

This will absolutely be the most controversial penalty in the history of football.



Don't really disagree here.

quote:

A salute to the crowd following a touchdown in one game will be called by one set of officials. A chest-pumping, shirt-pulling, dogpile in the endzone by a group of players will be overlooked in another


My understanding of the rule is that anything taking place after the touchdown will still be enforced under the old rule. The new rule specifies excessive celebration prior to the touchdown, ie. diving/flipping into the endzone, high-stepping, pretty much anything Reggie Bush used to do at USC.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:15 pm to
quote:

My understanding of the rule is that anything taking place after the touchdown will still be enforced under the old rule. The new rule specifies excessive celebration prior to the touchdown, ie. diving/flipping into the endzone, high-stepping, pretty much anything Reggie Bush used to do at USC.

It is this and the rule is good in theory because a player shouldn't celebrate before he gets into the endzone but there are going to be major screwups by the officials who are enforcing this rule which will take points off the board. I think it should all be enforced after a touchdown because kicking 15 yards further back is huge in terms of field position or at the end of a game. I forget which bowl game but the team needed a 2 point conversion and the player got a celebration penalty which made them fail on the 2 point conversion.
This post was edited on 2/11/11 at 1:17 pm
Posted by ktowner128
Kenner, LA
Member since Oct 2005
1269 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I forget which bowl game but the team needed a 2 point conversion and the player got a celebration penalty which made them fail on the 2 point conversion.


It was also a bullshite excessive celebration call...
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:40 pm to
quote:

It needs to read "offensive penalties".

If you're not dumb it's obvious a defensive penalty wouldn't run the clock down.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164137 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

no, but huge in the UT-UNC Music City Bowl game.

I'm sure this is one reason why the NCAA wants to do this. It's not right that a team (UNC) can snap the ball with 18 guys on the field running around and have the clock stop at 2 seconds, letting them kick the field goal.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:42 pm to
quote:

no, but huge in the UT-UNC Music City Bowl game.


The refs screwed that game up not the rule..

Should have been a 15 yard penalty. Same way LSU was called for it in our bowl game..

Illegal Participation should have been ruled NOT too many men on the field. The refs fricked up.
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
1591 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

My understanding of the rule is that anything taking place after the touchdown will still be enforced under the old rule. The new rule specifies excessive celebration prior to the touchdown, ie. diving/flipping into the endzone, high-stepping, pretty much anything Reggie Bush used to do at USC.


And this wouldn't bother me as much (I think...once again you have the same issue, though, with a kid pointing to the sky on his way into the endzone vs. the Reggie Bush-esque showboating/flipping into the endzone). That said, during the Pinstipe Bowl, the announcers made reference to the above proposed rule and made it sound as if what the KSU player had done post-touchdown (military-style salute to the fans) would have cost his team the touchdown, as well as the less severe penalties imposed.
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