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Gattaca and Racism

Posted on 11/24/10 at 7:26 am
Posted by Maderan
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 7:26 am
Just re-watched this the other day and for a piece about the evolution of racism it is surprisingly racist.

The premise being that the majority of people have been genetically altered to be ideal and if you haven't then society shuns you. Well there are almost no black people cast in the movie. I can't recall seeing any at his job (where they only have the elite of the elite)and the only time I remember any was working at the restaurant.

Anyone else notice this?
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 7:40 am to
Well . . .
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 7:54 am to
I think you're grasping for straws here, guy.

Any utopia would have to have a single race. Who's to say the perfect people weren't 1/4 or 1/8 black?
Posted by Lacour
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 8:04 am to
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Pectus


Racist
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 8:11 am to
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Anyone else notice this?



No, but now that you mention it I didn't see any asians either. Come on Hollywood you know the rules. One asian friend, one black friend, one hispanic friend and one gay friend.
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 8:42 am to
You forgot the handi-capable friend.
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 8:48 am to
quote:

You forgot the handi-capable friend.


Damn! You're right.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61489 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 8:57 am to
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You forgot the handi-capable friend.



Dumbass

Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61489 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:02 am to
quote:

piece about the evolution of racism


Not my take at all. This was about Big Brother, central planning and fitting people into societal slots from the moment of conception. I would think the prominence of whitey has more to do with Hollywood than the movie itself.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:21 am to
Gattaca is one of my Top 10 best films from 1997 and happens to be one of, if not my favorite, Science-Fiction film of the last twenty years.
Posted by iggle
Member since Oct 2007
2649 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:51 am to
blair underwood played the dashing young doctor that served them up a perfect brother to go along with their retard "god child"/heart attack waiting to happen.

Oh, and look, another black guy!



Now that I think about it, this thread can't be serious...can it?
Posted by Maderan
Member since Feb 2005
807 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:51 am to
I see the big brother aspect of the movie but there just a simple substitution of genoism for racism.

The whole underlying plot of the movie is discrimination. Headed directly by the conflict between the two brothers. The cop brother can't even see past his inherent discrimination to what his brother really is.

He is at Gattaca and no one suspects it because of the ingrained belief that a non-engineered person could never make it there.

To me it exemplifies racism and discrimination. The core message is that the composition of a person does not limit who they are and what they can do no matter what basket of societies preconceived notions that you subscribe to.
Posted by iggle
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 9:58 am to
in case you don't remember:

LINK

picture's too large to post in thread.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61489 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:00 am to
If your contention is that this movie says non whites = genetically inferior, I still think you are confusing the way Hollywood does/did business with this movie's message. This was the heyday of Friends and Seinfeld. The blackest Hollywood got during this time was making movies with that non threatening light skinned black fellow that lived with Uncle Phil in Bel Aire.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:13 am to
Or Fox Thursday and UPN.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:17 am to
quote:

This was about Big Brother, central planning and fitting people into societal slots from the moment of conception

eh

people chose to make "perfect" babies

it's not some governmental conspiracy

it was a choice. if you can't recognize the choice, you miss all of the importance of the movie
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:25 am to
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The blackest Hollywood got during this time was making movies with that non threatening light skinned black fellow that lived with Uncle Phil in Bel Aire.


it was made in 97, not 87

some "black" films from 95-99



















etc etc etc
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:34 am to
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etc etc etc


Posted by Maderan
Member since Feb 2005
807 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:41 am to
Agree with SFP, the time period had nothing to do with it.

My point is that the guy who directed it also wrote it. So the point that the director is making is his own personal view or allegory of discrimination.

Yet in the movie the are almost no black people. Just seems weird. Maybe the director didn't want us to muddle our (the audience's) opinions with his allegory of genoism so he gave very few roles to non-whites.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61489 posts
Posted on 11/24/10 at 10:50 am to
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some "black" films from 95-99


Seriously? You took what I said to mean Hollywood refused to hire black people at all? So are you saying that you also think a central message of Gattaca was white power as opposed to the movie's whiteness being a reflection of the casting environment of the time?
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