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Question for the "Media's lack of respect" people
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:16 am
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:16 am
What exactly constitutes this alleged lack of media respect?
Is it the fact that LSU is ranked "only" 6th in the AP Poll?
Is it the fact that LSU has been on National TV several times this year?
Is it the fact that the head coach (for better or worse) gets a TON of media coverage?
Is it the fact that the media (AP poll) still kept LSU at #6 even though it struggled to beat a struggling Ole Miss team (at home) while other 1 loss teams pounded similar opponents on the road? (see Wisc. and Stanford)
This isn't a flame, I'm just interested to see what is considered to be a lack of respect
Is it the fact that LSU is ranked "only" 6th in the AP Poll?
Is it the fact that LSU has been on National TV several times this year?
Is it the fact that the head coach (for better or worse) gets a TON of media coverage?
Is it the fact that the media (AP poll) still kept LSU at #6 even though it struggled to beat a struggling Ole Miss team (at home) while other 1 loss teams pounded similar opponents on the road? (see Wisc. and Stanford)
This isn't a flame, I'm just interested to see what is considered to be a lack of respect
This post was edited on 11/23/10 at 9:17 am
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:17 am to Alt26
it's more individual soundbytes than national polls
with the way some of the talking heads look at LSU, it's surprising we're not ranked with the 2-loss teams in the AP
with the way some of the talking heads look at LSU, it's surprising we're not ranked with the 2-loss teams in the AP
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:19 am to Alt26
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:40 am to Alt26
I don't buy into the whole "media hates us" conspiracy. It's very simple, we're not the "sexy" team right now. We play ugly football and win by small margins. Although this doesn't matter in the football world, it does matter to the media. They like to focus on high powered offenses and teams that blow out other teams. When we did the same we got plenty of attention from the media.
If we didn't have such a charismatic and odd coach, we probably wouldn't get any media attention with our style of play.
If we didn't have such a charismatic and odd coach, we probably wouldn't get any media attention with our style of play.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:42 am to rintintin
I think it is the fact that out of all the one loss teams, we have the toughest strength of schedule, but the talking heads act like we should be the lowest ranked one loss team.
This post was edited on 11/23/10 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:52 am to TIGERSby10
quote:
I think it is the fact that out of all the one loss teams, we have the toughest strength of schedule, but the talking heads act like we should be the lowest one ranked one loss team
I think at this point, folks are trying to differentiate between the one loss teams. The facts are that LSU has played the toughest schedule (with one more tough game to come), but many outside of LSU fans, see the Tenn. and Fla. wins as flukes or luck. They view the Ole Miss win as one where a "better" team would have hammered Ole Miss. Like or not, college football is more or less a subjective "beauty contest" once you get to the end of the season
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:53 am to rintintin
I was about to start a post that is relative to this. I hear the points that are made about us on tv, and the coach getting tv time, and being ranked any higher than we are. One fella just mentioned that we are not playing sexy football right now. I supposed but the fact is for a footbal team being so successful we attract a lot of negative attention. We won, it doesn't matter if its by a inch or mile a win is a win. Huston Nutt didn't face any questions when we had clock issues, and we took our rankings by beating our comp this year. We didn't get any favor votes from the media, as stanford, and wisconsin are getting right now. We started off the season ranked 22nd the country and they still don't give us a shot. So my question is if in our non conference we schedules teams like, Duke, GSU,SJSU,Miami of ohio, USF, APP, and Chatt and played sexy football would we get the respect we deserve? I doubt it. We are successful this year, however those negatives do affect us. We dropped in the Harris and in the AP.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:58 am to Section28
It's people questioning their ranking even though they have a single loss to arguably the top team in the country, on the road, by one score.
It's idiots like Todd McShay and Robert Smith getting on College Football Scoreboard saying:
"LSU is a 2 loss team. They lost to Tennessee."
"LSU, that's the fifth best team in the country. No, it's the fifth ranked team in the country. That's more like it."
It's Herbstreit saying on College Gameday that LSU is on the decline and that the Florida game would be the first of 4 or 5 losses.
It's the ESPN talking heads recapping how Oregon "gets it done with their defense" after they escape with a win because the Cal kicker missed a chip shot field goal. LSU beats Ole Miss, their traditional rivalry game which is ALWAYS close,no matter what the teams records are, and they say that LSU "escapes" with a win or "avoids an upset". Hell, they even do that shite on the crawler at the bottom of the screen, so it can't be pinned to a single announcer.
It's players like Nevis and Jasper getting left off of some key individual awards when thy post better numbers and have equal or greater impact on their team than the finalists that were chosen.
The only ones that have it right are the computers, the only "group" in this whole sordid mess around College football that does not have an agenda.
And, btw, EVERYONE has an agenda. Sorry, it's just human nature. Not saying that everyone's agenda concerns LSU, in fact, most don't. But there will be biases by the voters and the people who cover college football for their alma maters, their home conferences, their favorite players, and a whole myriad of other reasons.
It's idiots like Todd McShay and Robert Smith getting on College Football Scoreboard saying:
"LSU is a 2 loss team. They lost to Tennessee."
"LSU, that's the fifth best team in the country. No, it's the fifth ranked team in the country. That's more like it."
It's Herbstreit saying on College Gameday that LSU is on the decline and that the Florida game would be the first of 4 or 5 losses.
It's the ESPN talking heads recapping how Oregon "gets it done with their defense" after they escape with a win because the Cal kicker missed a chip shot field goal. LSU beats Ole Miss, their traditional rivalry game which is ALWAYS close,no matter what the teams records are, and they say that LSU "escapes" with a win or "avoids an upset". Hell, they even do that shite on the crawler at the bottom of the screen, so it can't be pinned to a single announcer.
It's players like Nevis and Jasper getting left off of some key individual awards when thy post better numbers and have equal or greater impact on their team than the finalists that were chosen.
The only ones that have it right are the computers, the only "group" in this whole sordid mess around College football that does not have an agenda.
And, btw, EVERYONE has an agenda. Sorry, it's just human nature. Not saying that everyone's agenda concerns LSU, in fact, most don't. But there will be biases by the voters and the people who cover college football for their alma maters, their home conferences, their favorite players, and a whole myriad of other reasons.
This post was edited on 11/23/10 at 10:02 am
Posted on 11/23/10 at 9:59 am to ffishstik
"LSU escapes Ole Miss"
"Ohio state wins convincingly"
both wins by 7pts.
"Ohio state wins convincingly"
both wins by 7pts.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:02 am to apostel tiger
quote:
I supposed but the fact is for a footbal team being so successful we attract a lot of negative attention. We won, it doesn't matter if its by a inch or mile a win is a win.
It's the media, they're all about ratings and headlines. I thought everyonw knew this by now. What is more interesting to the casual fan?
"#5 LSU and their odd ball coach pull another win out of Les Miles hat"
or
"LSU holds on to beat a realing Ole Miss team"
I don't know about you, but if I'm not an LSU fan I'm reading the first article while barely glancing at the second.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:17 am to Alt26
they way they talk, you would have thought that LSU was preseason #1 and squeaked by in EVERY game and is the luckiest team in the face of God's Green Earth to ever put on a jock and how dare they are 10-1. It is Hate, Haters gonna Hate. Fuk ESPN. I hope they never come back to TS.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:21 am to Alt26
When LSU is the top one loss team in the BCS, which uses computer rankings and poll rankings, I find this "Media rack of respect" stuff hard to understand.
Now, is there certain media types who question our rankings...sure.
But overall LSU seems to be doing pretty good in the media right now. imo
Now, is there certain media types who question our rankings...sure.
But overall LSU seems to be doing pretty good in the media right now. imo
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:22 am to rintintin
Our fans are paranoid.
LSU has yet to dominate a single team (save ULM) and our fans want the media to treat us the same way they treat Oregon who has dominated EVERY team (save Cal).
LSU should have lost at home to a mediocre Tennessee team and struggled to beat a BAD Ole Miss team and LSU fans act offended that the media noticed.
LSU fans think a 7 point win against said BAD Ole Miss team at home should be characterized the same way as Ohio State beating a pretty good Iowa squad on the road by the same margin.
The pendulum has swung. The same segment of the fan base that wanted Miles fired ten weeks ago now think LSU can do no wrong. They were stupid then and they are stupid now.
LSU has yet to dominate a single team (save ULM) and our fans want the media to treat us the same way they treat Oregon who has dominated EVERY team (save Cal).
LSU should have lost at home to a mediocre Tennessee team and struggled to beat a BAD Ole Miss team and LSU fans act offended that the media noticed.
LSU fans think a 7 point win against said BAD Ole Miss team at home should be characterized the same way as Ohio State beating a pretty good Iowa squad on the road by the same margin.
The pendulum has swung. The same segment of the fan base that wanted Miles fired ten weeks ago now think LSU can do no wrong. They were stupid then and they are stupid now.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:33 am to Alt26
To me it is obvious:
The media (Associated Press)dropped LSU in their last poll because we won our game against our most traditional rival. We won the freaking game! When is the last time Alabama dropped a spot for beating Auburn? When is the last time USC dropped for beating UCLA? When is the last time Ohio State dropped for beating Michigan? When is the last time Oklahoma dropped for beating Texas? When is the last time Florida dropped for beating Georgia? When is the last time Florida State dropped for beating Miami? When is the last time Notre Dame dropped for beating Navy?
The media (Associated Press)dropped LSU in their last poll because we won our game against our most traditional rival. We won the freaking game! When is the last time Alabama dropped a spot for beating Auburn? When is the last time USC dropped for beating UCLA? When is the last time Ohio State dropped for beating Michigan? When is the last time Oklahoma dropped for beating Texas? When is the last time Florida dropped for beating Georgia? When is the last time Florida State dropped for beating Miami? When is the last time Notre Dame dropped for beating Navy?
This post was edited on 11/23/10 at 10:35 am
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:37 am to Mike Linebacker
Never once called for Miles job or questioned his authority. He walks in a pretty big pair of shoes that nobody I can imagine would want to. But the facts are that these negitive shots does have some pull in the polls. It has shown in the polls. The evidence has shown. We have not played our best ball this year but we are a dam good football team.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:37 am to Tiger Vision
Ole Miss is a terrible football team.
We struggled to beat them at home.
Meanwhile Stanford and Wisconsin are dominating opponents and are right behind us in the polls.
If the roles were reversed--say Wisconsin nearly lost to Indiana at home and we routed Florida that week--you damn well know that we'd be arguing we absolutely should jump them. And we would be right.
We struggled to beat them at home.
Meanwhile Stanford and Wisconsin are dominating opponents and are right behind us in the polls.
If the roles were reversed--say Wisconsin nearly lost to Indiana at home and we routed Florida that week--you damn well know that we'd be arguing we absolutely should jump them. And we would be right.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:42 am to apostel tiger
quote:
But the facts are that these negitive shots does have some pull in the polls.
Right. Think of all of the idiots spewing negativity preseason and early in the season. It was ridiculous. And don't think the national media doesn't catch that vibe--remember the Les on the hotseat stories? Remember Les himself saying "They didn't like us much at 5-0, maybe they'll like us better at 6-0" after the Gator game"?
That hotseat was fueled by our "fan base." And Les wasn't just talking about the media--he was talking about our fans too.
The same fan base now is bewildered by the lack of respect we get in the media. It would be comical if it weren't so sad.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:47 am to Mike Linebacker
Mike you are well respected by me and the rest of the Rant. Who's side are you on. Frick, Wisconsin and Stanford. I would like to see better play. We are shooting as about as good we can with the arsenal we have. But we can shoot much better.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:54 am to Mike Linebacker
Some folks might have a hard time accepting it, but all of LSU's close games are what's really hurting it in the human polls. If you look at Alabama's performance this season, there is not a single instance in which they struggled with an inferior opponent, which is why they were still considered national title contenders before they lost to LSU. LSU, on the other hand, has stuggled with inferior opponents on five different occasions, which is half of their wins.
Posted on 11/23/10 at 10:56 am to Mike Linebacker
quote:Please tell me why?
LSU should have lost at home to a mediocre Tennessee team
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