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Why kick on 1st down?
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:02 pm
I couldn't believe they just didn't run it 3 times or try a screen pass to close em out or get closer. NEVER put everything on the kicker, especially one whom is struggling. 
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Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:04 pm to MELDERMAN
the kick was basically an extra point.
our rbs were banged up at the time
our rbs were banged up at the time
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:05 pm to MELDERMAN
do you not remember Ivory fumbling earlier when just trying to get a yard?
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:05 pm to MELDERMAN
because kicking it from that close has like a 90-something percent success rate. passing is a risk and our running game hadn't been all that successful.
good decision, poor kick.
good decision, poor kick.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:08 pm to efrad
Could have at least tried to get the ball to the center of the field...
Makes no sense, but he should have made that kick.......
Makes no sense, but he should have made that kick.......
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:08 pm to efrad
Guess so. I just say hold on to the ball, put ur head down, and try to score. Kick on 3rd or 4th. O well
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:08 pm to Napoleon
because it was a fricking chip shot that 31/32 kickers would have nailed
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:11 pm to MELDERMAN
It was I think a 29 yarder. Almost every team in the league would have kicked it in that situation. Personally, I thought we were gonna run left to get it in the middle of the field but beyond that, kicking the ball is the call there.
You don't want false starts, or bad exchanges in that situation.
You don't want false starts, or bad exchanges in that situation.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:11 pm to MELDERMAN
Ivory and Pierre were both injured in the 4th/OT.
ideally you run the ball twice and kick on 3rd down, but i dont think they wanted to trust Ladell Betts
ideally you run the ball twice and kick on 3rd down, but i dont think they wanted to trust Ladell Betts
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:14 pm to Lester Earl
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Ivory and Pierre were both injured in the 4th/OT.
ideally you run the ball twice and kick on 3rd down, but i dont think they wanted to trust Ladell Betts
After seeing that horrible attempt of a FG I'd just assume give it to Evans there and try to score. Or let the best player to ever wear the black and gold take 2 shots throwing it.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:16 pm to Napoleon
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Could have at least tried to get the ball to the center of the field...
So he could have hooked it left by 10 yards instead of 5.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:17 pm to Napoleon
I'm assuming they asked hartley where he wanted the ball. Also assuming he wanted it on that hashmark. But I like most of you would think having it in the middle of the field would be better.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:21 pm to Elleshoe
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After seeing that horrible attempt of a FG I'd just assume give it to Evans there and try to score.
easy to say
Hartley kicked us "into overtime" with :04 left.
I'd have to say I trust the guy to make that kick right there.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:22 pm to MELDERMAN
And if a RB fumbled you would be posting why not kick the chip shot FG on 1st down
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:25 pm to MELDERMAN
Kicking on 1st involved the least amount of risk, IMO
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:27 pm to Lester Earl
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easy to say
Hartley kicked us "into overtime" with :04 left.
I'd have to say I trust the guy to make that kick right there.
I was speaking in hyperbole. I knew the guy was struggling but also thought it was a chip shot that would be automatic. In hindsight of course we'd all just assume trust Brees... I don't think we need to cut the guy yet but bringing in some competition could work.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:43 pm to Napoleon
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Could have at least tried to get the ball to the center of the field...
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the ball spotted on the right hash mark? And the kick missed wide LEFT...so how in the hell does this make any sense, trying to get into the center of the field?
Posted on 9/26/10 at 8:55 pm to d6k
On getting to center, it isn't like the kicker doesn't set up for it. 
The assumption is most kickers want to be straight on so you don't have to start with an angle. So even if he hooks it left, he obviously would have set up a different line if in the center.
Hartley may have thought he wanted to set up to the right for a hook, but like all past or current golf slicers know, trying to correct your slice and aiming exaggeratedly to the opposite side is a recipe for more slice.
The assumption is most kickers want to be straight on so you don't have to start with an angle. So even if he hooks it left, he obviously would have set up a different line if in the center.
Hartley may have thought he wanted to set up to the right for a hook, but like all past or current golf slicers know, trying to correct your slice and aiming exaggeratedly to the opposite side is a recipe for more slice.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 9:05 pm to MELDERMAN
Hartley seems to yank everything left. How about we try the left hash for once just to see how it works out.
Posted on 9/26/10 at 9:07 pm to The Boat
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Hartley seems to yank everything left.
Yank...everything...........left? orly?
Sounds like some serious personal problem if you ask me.
This post was edited on 9/26/10 at 9:08 pm
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