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Our receivers weren't ready for the passes that weren't perfect
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:53 pm
from Jefferson. Sure, JJ had a bad game but at least 5 or 6 of his incompletions hit our receivers where they could have caught it. They ought to know by now that he only throws a perfect throw every now and then. I expect more out of our receivers. Great receivers catch balls that are hard to catch.
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Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:55 pm to Raparooot
people need to stop citing the "5 or 6" passes that receivers could have caught as a way to defend JJ. Those passes were terrible and maybe 1 should have been caught. He was inaccurate, ineffective and completely indefensible last night.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:55 pm to Raparooot
kind of reminded me of b. lafell dropping countless passes against ole miss last year. JJ can work on his accuracy...........he needs to seriously improve.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:55 pm to Raparooot
Even if a lot of those balls had been caught, they would have done nothing. If a receiver really has to extend himself to get to a poorly thrown ball, there's not much he can do once he's caught it.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:59 pm to Raparooot
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weren't perfect
Candidate for under statement of the year!!!
Posted on 9/12/10 at 3:59 pm to OFWHAP
I totally agree that YAC would have been minimal if those balls were caught but since many that were dropped were done so past the line of scrimmage the result would have been shorter yardage on the next down or in some cases a first down.
Im not defending JJ but also frustrated that our superstar super talented WR group would touch so many balls and still drop them.
Im not defending JJ but also frustrated that our superstar super talented WR group would touch so many balls and still drop them.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:00 pm to Raparooot
Its one thing to throw balls where he doesn't give a opportunity for the WRs to make a play...and another where the WRs basically have very little chance to even catch it. They didn't drop as many balls as stated. Throwing at someone's feet is not a easy catch, especially when you have to completely STOP.
JJ has never been accurate and probably never will be. Even on simple passes like slip/jailbreak screens, JJ has problems with not just accuracy but his release allows a defense to adjust to the play. That is why you're not seeing LSU run those plays right now. His release lets DBs break on the WRs for the screen...
JJ has never been accurate and probably never will be. Even on simple passes like slip/jailbreak screens, JJ has problems with not just accuracy but his release allows a defense to adjust to the play. That is why you're not seeing LSU run those plays right now. His release lets DBs break on the WRs for the screen...
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:02 pm to MetArl15
Watch the replay tonight and you will see what your drinking did to your eyes last night. They weren't horribly thrown balls and more than a few were catchable.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:02 pm to MetArl15
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Those passes were terrible and maybe 1 should have been caught. He was inaccurate, ineffective and completely indefensible last night.
Agree. A few circus catches would be nice but should not be expected. Early Doucet excelled at those, often making Russell and Flynn look better than they were.(See Doucet 40" above the turf that night against ASU)
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:04 pm to Raparooot
No offense but it probably was a good thing some of those balls were dropped. The only outright passes I remember being dropped were on third down where the WRs were covered tight anyway and a first down wasn't likely. I think we only had two outright drops, the rest were just absolutely terrible passes. Passes that probably would end in the WR getting completely decapitated if he made the catch due to his accuracy...so yea.
This post was edited on 9/12/10 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:07 pm to Raparooot
I don't know if you're talking to just anyone, but I don't drink...and those were bad passes.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:09 pm to Raparooot
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Great receivers catch balls that are hard to catch.
yes they do, but a lot depends on the route...on a swing route, a pass behind you is about impossible to catch, and if you do catch it the play is effectively botched because your momentum is killed.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:12 pm to ForeLSU
those passes were terrible. the momentum of the player was usually moving away from the ball and the balls were no where near close. Shep is still learning to play wide receiver but those balls were horribly thrown. Most of those flare passes were thrown to high and with no touch. Just sayin
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:13 pm to deuce985
If some passes were dropped for whatever reason, and some passes were just horribly thrown, then let's just break even and say we had a bad passing game. I think Billy G should go before Crowton. He's had two damn games now!!! Jokin, but seriously, let it go. You won't convince the people who disagree with you about Les, JJ, or JL.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:16 pm to Raparooot
Although I think the receivers could have caught maybe 2 more passes, they should be applauded for getting 1 or 2 hands on some of those passes. Some of them were totally putrid.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:41 pm to OFWHAP
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If a receiver really has to extend himself to get to a poorly thrown ball, there's not much he can do once he's caught it.
And this is the root of the problem, especially on the third down throws. They either fall down trying to catch it, or at least try and make a play.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:52 pm to ForeLSU
Some don't seem to understand that the vast majority of routes that we run are dependent on YAC to be successful.
They also lead to a higher than expected completion percentage, but require a bust on the defense to produce significant yards.
I think the INT last night was a pretty good example of why we don't go vertical, unless we have field position and no help over the top for the defender.
They also lead to a higher than expected completion percentage, but require a bust on the defense to produce significant yards.
I think the INT last night was a pretty good example of why we don't go vertical, unless we have field position and no help over the top for the defender.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 4:59 pm to tigerfoot
I think one of the announcers had it right last night when they said that every player is trying to make a statement play, so they can stay on the field. The worst of them all is Jefferson. He is so concerned with pulling off that one play that will quiet his critics, he is not relaxing and just playing football. He has fallen so far, only consistent playing will make anyone stand up and cheer for him. Unfortunately, it's usually not consistent playmaking that makes the highlight reels.
Seriously, I had a thought when I started my little rant...
Seriously, I had a thought when I started my little rant...
Posted on 9/12/10 at 5:01 pm to wahoocs
the very first pass JJ threw was very catchable and would have resulted in a 1st down and perhaps gotten LSU and JJ off on a more positive note and could have led to a much better game by JJ. But no, it was dropped by RR, right though his hands.
Posted on 9/12/10 at 5:07 pm to Cajun Tifoso
Except for the Ga Tech bowl game, JJ has never looked in rhythm, or coordinated in the execution of the plays.
Even the quick throws this year have been awkward because the receiver was usually covered well and the throw probably should not have been made.
I agree that JL does not have much game success to support an argument for playing time. But even tho he threw all those pick 6s 2 years ago, LSUs O was amongst the top of the SEC. If not for the Malveto fiasco, that would have been a pretty good season.
Time to give JL the ball for 4 - 5 series (some consecutive), and see if he can get a rhythm going.
If he starts to hit short to intermediate out routes, Ridley will have a lot of space to work with in the middle.
Even the quick throws this year have been awkward because the receiver was usually covered well and the throw probably should not have been made.
I agree that JL does not have much game success to support an argument for playing time. But even tho he threw all those pick 6s 2 years ago, LSUs O was amongst the top of the SEC. If not for the Malveto fiasco, that would have been a pretty good season.
Time to give JL the ball for 4 - 5 series (some consecutive), and see if he can get a rhythm going.
If he starts to hit short to intermediate out routes, Ridley will have a lot of space to work with in the middle.
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