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Advisers Cited By Salazar Say Drilling Ban Is Bad Idea

Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:24 pm
Posted by EWE TIGER
Houma
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:24 pm
From the front page of the Times Picayune, very interesting article. It appears Salazar and/or Obama had their own agenda.

LINK

quote:

Members of a panel of experts brought in to advise the Obama administration on how to address offshore drilling safety after the Deepwater Horizon disaster now say Interior Secretary Ken Salazar falsely implied they supported a six-month drilling moratorium they actually oppose.

Salazar's May 27 report to President Barack Obama said a panel of seven experts "peer reviewed" his recommendations, which included a six-month moratorium on all ongoing drilling in waters deeper than 500 feet. That prohibition took effect a few days later, but the angry panel members and some others who contributed to the Salazar report said they had reviewed only an earlier version of the secretary's report that suggested a six-month moratorium only on new drilling, and then only in waters deeper than 1,000 feet.

"We broadly agree with the detailed recommendations in the report and compliment the Department of Interior for its efforts," a joint letter from the panelists to various politicians says. "However, we do not agree with the six month blanket moratorium on floating drilling. A moratorium was added after the final review and was never agreed to by the contributors."


quote:

The experts' criticism of the moratorium and effort to distance themselves from it come as oil production companies prepare to move mobile deepwater rigs out of the Gulf of Mexico, threatening thousands of jobs in Louisiana that support those drilling operations with supply boats and shoreside services.

"A blanket moratorium is not the answer. It will not measurably reduce risk further and it will have a lasting impact on the nation's economy which may be greater than that of the oil spill," the letter says. "We do not believe punishing the innocent is the right thing to do."

One of the panelists who signed the letter, University of California at Berkeley engineering professor Bob Bea, said in an e-mail message that a moratorium should be reserved for "unconventional, very hazardous operations" and shouldn't apply to the "majority of conventional offshore operations, (which) meet fundamental requirements for acceptable risks."

"Moratorium was not a part of the ... report we consulted-advised-reviewed," Bea wrote. "Word from DOI (Interior Department) was it was a W(hite) H(ouse) request."

The National Academy of Engineering provided seven reviewers for Salazar's safety report, and the academy's Ken Arnold, an oil and gas industry consultant, wrote a scathing cover letter Tuesday that concludes: "The Secretary should be free to recommend whatever he thinks is correct, but he should not be free to use our names to justify his political decisions."


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"We were very upset," Ward said. "We would have understood if (Salazar's report) said, 'These are good recommendations from the panel, but we have decided to declare a six-month moratorium instead.' But instead, they're kind of using our input for cover to do something that didn't have much to do with our recommendations."

The panelists said even Salazar's report clearly shows the deepwater safety record is generally strong, making the moratorium all the more puzzling.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98730 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:27 pm to
Color me surprised that an Obama administration official would cook this up. Certainly, nothing like this was done during the healthcare debate.
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27172 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:33 pm to
The one of local news stations here in Houston did a report on this last night.

It pisses me off and I am not surprised at the same time.
Posted by knockers
Austin
Member since Dec 2009
464 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 3:35 pm to
It just ceases to amaze me. How can you be worse than Jimmy Carter? Only in America
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
29189 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

Color me surprised that an Obama administration official would cook this up. Certainly, nothing like this was done during the healthcare debate.


+1

So hope and change means they change the report's conclusions and hope the scientists wouldn't notice. Nice.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38495 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:39 pm to
Noting to worry about. Sid in Lakeshore says none of the rigs are leaving.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

Sid in Lakeshore says none of the rigs are leaving


I did not say that. 2 different spokesmen for rig companies cited in the article you posted said it. You chose to focus on the one (Anadarko) who is pulling out 3 rigs.

ETA: What I did say and still believe is that I think the moratorium will be less than 6 months. Prudent drillers like Noble and (dare I say it) Transocean are preparing for the return to drilling, based on the article YOU POSTED, like I said.
This post was edited on 6/9/10 at 5:00 pm
Posted by INFIDEL
The couch
Member since Aug 2006
16199 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Color me surprised that an Obama administration official would cook this up. Certainly, nothing like this was done during the healthcare debate.



This.

Hope and Change
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57223 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

Color me surprised that an Obama administration official would cook this up. Certainly, nothing like this was done during the healthcare debate.
They did the same thing with doctor groups during the healthcare "debate".
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38495 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 5:17 pm to
quote:

ETA: What I did say and still believe is that I think the moratorium will be less than 6 months. Prudent drillers like Noble and (dare I say it) Transocean are preparing for the return to drilling, based on the article YOU POSTED, like I said.


Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 5:29 pm to
"a spokesman for Anadarko, said Monday that the company should survive a temporary shutdown and get right back to work as soon as the moratorium is lifted."

""We're working with Minerals Management Service, so when we do come out of the suspension (of drilling) we're ready with these projects," said Dave Stover, president and chief executive officer of Noble Energy,"

"Steven Newman, president and CEO of Transocean, is confident that the moratorium effects are only "temporary."

All of these quotes are from the article YOU POSTED to show that all rigs are parmanently leaving the GOM. If you want to act like an adolescent, that is you proble.

OMG, OMG.......OBAMA is a marxist. Drilling is over in the GOM.

This post was edited on 6/9/10 at 5:31 pm
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
38495 posts
Posted on 6/9/10 at 8:30 pm to


I think I said the rigs leaving will likely leave for 2 -5 years which is normal for a rig leaving the country. Hell I've worked on the TransOcean Marianis in 3 different countries. Two in one year.

I don't remember even mentioning Obama once.
This post was edited on 6/9/10 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Brouss
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Posted on 6/10/10 at 3:31 am to
Posted by Brouss
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Posted by EWE TIGER
Houma
Member since Sep 2009
924 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 6:14 am to
Interesting article, I'm sure others will follow their lead.

quote:

The ban on deepwater petroleum drilling in the Gulf of Mexico is being challenged by a Louisiana oil services company that claims the federal government has not shown justification for the shutdown.

Hornbeck Offshore Services Inc., based in Covington, La., operates a fleet of vessels that haul people and supplies to offshore drilling rigs and production platforms. The company filed suit late Monday in U.S. District Court in New Orleans to bar the Interior Department from enforcing the six-month moratorium ordered by President Barack Obama in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon disaster and the huge oil spill in the Gulf.



Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28340 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:18 am to
I hope so......this is complete BS, and will do nothing but further devastating our region. BP ignored so many warning signs, why not shut them down for 6 months and let the rest of the folks in the gulf continue about their business. Punish the guilty party.........but I'm not suprised at all hopey mcchange doesn't do the right thing in this situation.
Posted by BoudinJoe
Member since Oct 2007
1918 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:25 am to
quote:

(Anadarko) who is pulling out 3 rigs.


I think it is important to note that the company declared Force Majeure on the contracts for these rigs and is not physically taking them out of the Gulf.

Another operator can contract them.
Posted by CougarBait
on catnip in a cougar's den
Member since Jun 2007
1977 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:30 am to
I am worried it has more to do with weakening a major political rival than anything. Louisiana is a red state whose electoral votes aren't much but whose governor is a rising GOP star. I hope that is not the reason.....


Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 8:45 am to
quote:

I think it is important to note that the company declared Force Majeure on the contracts for these rigs and is not physically taking them out of the Gulf.

Another operator can contract them.


Someone READ the article....Thank You.

Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 6/10/10 at 12:09 pm to
Does anyone else think like me in that we have all of the rules and regulations in place that we need right now, but just need these rules and regulations to be enforced? Of course that would take a functioning gov. entity to do this as well as the balls by said gov. to fine the fck out of a company like BP when they are caught cutting corners, etc.
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