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Inglourious Basterds

Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:31 pm
Posted by bamahata
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:31 pm
Seen it for the first time the other day and I really liked it, but everyone I talk to either loves it or thinks its QT worst movie. Im thinking its because the movie jumps scenes alot or maybe people have a hard time reading subtitles.
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:33 pm to
I personally enjoy hearing spoken French and German.

quote:

QT worst movie


See: Deathproof
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:34 pm to
Tartantino's best.


FWIW, I agree. Deathproof was god awful. The first Kill Bill wasn't exactly an epic either.

I loved Kill Bill 2 though. Probably my second favorite QT flick.

But Basterds blows everything else of his out of the water, IMO.
Posted by Turkey Burger
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:36 pm to
The people I talked to that hated just thought it was going to be Brad Pitt slaughtering Nazis for 2.5 hours
Posted by TulaneTigerFan
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:37 pm to
I like it, but I thought it was overly long. I also agree with SFP that one of the stories, I think he says the Basterds, could be completely left out and it would be a better movie.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

The people I talked to that hated just thought it was going to be Brad Pitt slaughtering Nazis for 2.5 hours



I don't understand why some people think that would have been entertaining.
Posted by Turkey Burger
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:56 pm to
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I don't understand why some people think that would have been entertaining.


Well people find mindless special effects extravaganzas to be some of the best movies they've ever seen so this is not unusual.
Posted by Lacour
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 1:58 pm to
What I mean is I don't understand why watching 2 and a half hours of torture would be entertaining.

Then again, I despise movies like Hostel.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/8/10 at 2:00 pm to
Everyone is obviously entitled to their opinions, but I personally didn't care for Inglorious Basterds. I don't HATE it, but i didn't really like it either. Deathproof was way worse, agreed. You can't say that people fault this movie for jumping around. All of QT's movies do that.



Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:18 am to
Saw it for the first time last night. I guess it was ok for what it was, a pure fantasy with no historical basis in reality at all. Which is fine since I knew that's what it was before watching.

The thing for me is I thought it could have had better character development. The jewish girl was the central protagonist but other than showing her family murdered they gave her no back story and no depth. It goes straight from her family being murdered to 4 years later and she's running a theater with no backstory at all an no sense still of who she is other than a jewish girl who wants revenge.


I kept comparing it to Paul Verhoeven's Black Book another recent WWII movie invovling Nazi's and Jews and how much better the jewish girl in Black Book's character was developed.


Plus I thought with the jewish girl planning to burn the theater unbeknownst to the basterds who are planning a similar strike on the theater I thought the two stories would have crossed paths at the end & tied in better but they really didn't at all other than the theater burned while two of the basterds were still inside shooting up the place.


But I did like the scene with Waltz at the farm house and the basement tavern scene. Plus it was cool to see the jewish girl's theater in Paris showing Henri-Georges Clouzot's Le corbeau up on the marquee.


This post was edited on 4/6/10 at 11:03 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:28 am to
quote:

The thing for me is I thought it could have had better character development. The jewish girl was the central protagonist but other than showing her family murdered they gave her no back story and no depth. It goes straight from her family being murdered to 4 years later and she's running a theater with no backstory at all an no sense still of who she is other than a jewish girl who wants revenge.


My thing was that knowing her family got shot up like they did was enough for me. I thought she was great, and really showed how good of an actress she is in the scene where she was introduced to Waltz. It was completely unexpected and the worst imaginable thing for her, and thought she did a good job of displaying those exact akward/angry but calm emotions. But I could see how a lack of back story for her would turn you off towards it a little.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:30 am to
It didn't turn me off I just think it kept it from being a better movie than it could have been. I would have liked to see how exactly she came to have the theater and some backstory of her surviving on her own after her family had been murdered. Instead it jumped right from the murders to 4 years later and the Nazi's falling right into her lap.
This post was edited on 4/6/10 at 9:34 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:31 am to
quote:

but everyone I talk to either loves it or thinks its QT worst movie. Im thinking its because the movie jumps scenes alot or maybe people have a hard time reading subtitles.


If a person doesnt like a movie because it has subtitles in it, im instantly done with them. I guess I can understand if they actually cant keep up. But if they are just to lazy to read and enjoy an awesome movie, that drives me crazy.
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:38 am to
quote:

If a person doesnt like a movie because it has subtitles in it, im instantly done with them. I guess I can understand if they actually cant keep up.



Especially considering this movie wasn't the most heavily subtitled. They spoke english for half of it.
This post was edited on 4/6/10 at 9:55 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:42 am to
quote:

The thing for me is I thought it could have had better character development. The jewish girl was the central protagonist but other than showing her family murdered they gave her no back story and no depth. It goes straight from her family being murdered to 4 years later and she's running a theater with no backstory at all an no sense still of who she is other than a jewish girl who wants revenge.



I never got the feeling that we needed any more background information than we were given in the film. I wouldn't want to see how Landa became who he was for instance.
Posted by tuck
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:52 am to
If not for the Basterds, we would not have seen Hitler get chewed up by a machine gun. That was a good enough reason to have them in the movie. I seriously got a little choked up over that whole scene.

I really like this movie. At it's most basic it was QT (and the rest of us) fantasizing about killing some of the most evil men to ever walk this earth with his favorite art form. What's not to love about that? DEATH BY FILM FTMFW!
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I would have liked to see how exactly she came to have the theater and some backstory of her surviving on her own after her family had been murdered.


I agree that would have been cool.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 10:55 am to
quote:

one of the stories, I think he says the Basterds, could be completely left out and it would be a better movie.

yup
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 10:58 am to
quote:

But I did like the scene with Waltz at the farm house and the basement tavern scene.

i need to watch this movie again

i got it for my mom and i was trying to explain it to her, and i think in my head i've convinced myself this movie is a great collection of scenes, and possibly not a great movie. i need to see if the continuity and pace are really intact on 2nd viewing

and i thought about this due to these 2 scenes. incredibly great scenes, but what really did the tavern scene do? get the actress hurt to create some drama for the basterds (who should have been in this movie far less)? great scene...i don't know if it really fit in
Posted by constant cough
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Posted on 4/6/10 at 11:01 am to
quote:

and i thought about this due to these 2 scenes. incredibly great scenes, but what really did the tavern scene do? get the actress hurt to create some drama for the basterds (who should have been in this movie far less)? great scene...i don't know if it really fit in



It think it was meant to allow Waltz's character to discover that the german actress was a double agent so that later they could have the Cinderella slipper strangling scene, and his capture of the the bastereds at the theater.
This post was edited on 4/6/10 at 11:05 am
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