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Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:36 pm
Posted by LSS
Willow Street
Member since Jul 2009
453 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:36 pm
Not many will doubt our football staff is over paid by a lot based upon the product seen on field. The OC is pulling in $450K+ per year. How much worse could our offense be if we had the OC from Delaware who likely pulls in about 80K per year? I think LSU is throwing money after money in an attempt to overcome the deficiencies of the HC. A quality HC attracts assistant coaches who desire the experience to work with the best and of course earn a competitive salary. At LSU we have to buy them cause the opportunity to work with the HC does Not seem too appealing and will not boost your resume. Chavis is a good DC but not $700K good. That is almost 2X what he made at UT. For what we have seen on the field the last 2 year our HC's salary should be able to fund the entire staff. We throwing $$ after $$ and that never works.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34847 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 6:41 pm to
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I think LSU is throwing money after money in an attempt to overcome the deficiencies of the HC.


ding ding ding

We hired Billy G (Miles' mentor) to teach Miles and Crowton how to run a few spread formations and utilize WRs that can run fast.
This post was edited on 1/21/10 at 6:43 pm
Posted by CT09
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
280 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 7:52 pm to
I know 4 or 5 high school coaches in a 100 mile radius of my house, that can out coach Miles. they will work work for less than 100,000 a year
Posted by lsuoldschool
Weston, La.
Member since Jan 2008
159 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 8:36 pm to
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I know 4 or 5 high school coaches in a 100 mile radius of my house, that can out coach Miles. they will work work for less than 100,000 a year


Names and schools. I doubt this and call bull shite
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 9:34 pm to
We pay Chief $700K because we wanted to keep him from bolting to UGA who was offering him over $600K.
Posted by BRTiger2005
Member since May 2005
1270 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 10:26 pm to
quote:

I know 4 or 5 high school coaches in a 100 mile radius of my house, that can out coach Miles. they will work work for less than 100,000 a year


Malzahn is over 100 miles away....
Posted by coonass27
shreveport
Member since Mar 2008
3620 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 10:31 pm to
Lou Valdin at HHS
Posted by jack6294
Greater Baton Rouge Area
Member since Jan 2007
4033 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 11:07 pm to
Really, you want a unknown coach making $100k as HC at LSU? You should crawl in a hole & delete your TD membership
Posted by MarlinMan
BSL
Member since Sep 2007
2533 posts
Posted on 1/21/10 at 11:55 pm to
Great post. This makes the LSU administration look like idiots....

What a waste....
Posted by Macavity92
Member since Dec 2004
5981 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 12:10 am to
Seriously? I guess no other school in the nation pays assistants so well. Except for Tenn, which paid Monte Kiffin $1.2 mil last year. And Va Tech, which just upped Foster's salary and added in an $800K retention bonus.


Tenn and Texas both had higher payrolls for assts last year than did LSU. LSU's top paid assistant came in 5th on the list for the highest paid asst, although Chavis will have moved up that list depending on what other coaches got in terms of raises.

No information was available for Stanford, Pitt, USCw, Penn State, Notre Dame and B.C. Although we are on the high end I think we are where you can expect salaries to be for upper tier BCS schools. When coaches are starting their first jobs at $2.4 mil per year, and stretching to $5 mil per, you can't expect assts to coach for $50K. Especially when so many of them are also in the running for NFL jobs. Sorry.

But hey, there's hope. There are all kinds of internships listed on footballscoop.com. Go apply.

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Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110828 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 3:28 am to
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I know 4 or 5 high school coaches in a 100 mile radius of my house, that can out coach Miles. they will work work for less than 100,000 a year


I'm sure they have the clout to rake in the recruits too.
Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 4:40 am to
I'm pretty the market out there for assistant coaches are raising. I think other schools are raising the salaries but you don't hear it on the news.
ETA: 20 years ago...the highest paying HC doesnt even make more than 1M a year
and the raises has nothing to do with the ticket cost but big game like LSU vs Alabama will cost more, game against WVA will cost less etc. the $$$ will come from the Boosters
This post was edited on 1/22/10 at 4:52 am
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8166 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 5:13 am to
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At LSU we have to buy them cause the opportunity to work with the HC does Not seem too appealing and will not boost your resume.


This

is

dumb.
Posted by KjunTiga
Death Valley
Member since Oct 2007
482 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 7:00 am to
College coaches should be paid by the win. Lose and you don't get paid that week.
Posted by LSS
Willow Street
Member since Jul 2009
453 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 7:14 am to
UGA offering Chavis 600K is another example of throwing $$ after $$. UGA and LSU both have underachieving, overpaid, incompetent HCs. No quality assistant coach in there right mind would go to UGA now without a huge guarantee of $$ cause the HC may also be a dead man walking as is the HC in Tigerown right now.
Posted by LSUisOVER9000
Member since Nov 2009
2751 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 8:38 am to
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College coaches should be paid by the win. Lose and you don't get paid that week.


then about 70% of the college coaches would quit...
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 8:40 am to
quote:

I think LSU is throwing money after money in an attempt to overcome the deficiencies of the HC
POST OF THE DAY
Posted by HuRRiCaNe MiLeS
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2010
8153 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 8:51 am to
I still cannot believe some folks on here believe that the staff we have right now will turn things around. Crowton is too predictable on offense, Chavis loves soft zone defense playing 10 yards off the ball. A dominant defense from LSU is why we won 2 national championships. You will never see a dominant defense under Chavis. If Miles did not think that Crowton needed to go, that just tells you that Miles will not right the fricking ship.

/thread

dreams come and go

Forget about competing for a championship in 2011 under Les Miles, because it won't happen. We get rid of Les Miles, we may be somewhere.
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
15551 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 9:14 am to
Chavis making 700K+ is baffling..

Miles, Chavis, Crowton at over 5mil
This post was edited on 1/22/10 at 9:16 am
Posted by YellowShoe
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Mar 2006
1381 posts
Posted on 1/22/10 at 9:33 am to
Without knowing what you do or what your performance evaluation was last year, is it possible that there is someone out there that thinks that they can do your job better for less. Go tell that to your boss.

Now.. let's debate the arguments
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We throwing $$ after $$ and that never works.

This argument was constantly made about the Yankees. Never is way too long. Yankees have been proving it wrong on a regular basis (Boston too).

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UGA and LSU both have underachieving, overpaid, incompetent HCs.

If you look at the body of work without prejudice, Miles record is good. 5 Years, 2 conf. championship appearances, 1 conf. championship, 2 BCS berths, 1 NC. Richt has a pretty gaudy record in the conference too. Last two years have a larger impact on your perception than their record/body of work.

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College coaches should be paid by the win. Lose and you don't get paid that week.

What if fans were told that their ticket price is only a service charge only. They need to pay based on the entertainment value of the game.
- if you came to the game with your spouse or child and get a memory for a life time, you pay a recurring charge
- every time you talk about that UF upset or UGA losing on the TD, you pay LSU entertainment charge
- what if LSU police were not that lenient with 'fan culture' and charged them with every transgression

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Great post. This makes the LSU administration look like idiots....

LSU administration got Miles quite cheap. Skip got raked over the coals for being cheap in his hire. Miles had incentives and he's made money based on those.
Saban got a huge hike in salary when he won the NC is 2003. Sure the pay raise was steep, but that was his contract. Win NC, be the highest paid coach in the nation. Should the administration have made it clear that LSU had to be voted no. 1 by AP too?

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I think LSU is throwing money after money in an attempt to overcome the deficiencies of the HC.

An argument only rant can appreciate. What are the HC's deficiencies and how did the thrown money overcome that? Bo Pellini's defense was considered suspect. It was blamed for the loss against Tenn, it was also considered the reason for 2007 loses. Now Bo is considered a great coach for turning around Cornhusker fortunes. Or is it Suh?
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We hired Billy G (Miles' mentor) to teach Miles and Crowton how to run a few spread formations and utilize WRs that can run fast.

My sarcasm deficiency this morning is forcing me to address this. Meyer did not promote Gonzalez as OC despite working loyally through 3 colleges. Did LSU get a clunker or is Miles so savvy that he invested in BG should Crowton leave or be jettisoned.

It's hard to understand economies of pay scale, especially if you are not in that range. Every time you hear about wall street excesses you wonder why you couldn't have made money for such incompetence. A while ago corporate execs made much less and the books were closed. It was deemed that if books were opened and competition encouraged, exec salaries would plateau. Instead, companies trying to outbid for services sent the salaries through the stratosphere. (Predictably Irrational: The Hidden Forces That Shape Our Decisions - Dan Ariely)
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