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So Why Isn't Anyone Talking About Ciron Black ....
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:52 pm
... letting his man straight up beat him on a speed rush to give up the sack ?? i was at the game .. did he even get a hand on him ?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:53 pm to TigahRag
Because he shouldn't have even been in pass blocking situation. He should have been run blocking 3 times in a fricking row, period, end of story.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:54 pm to TigahRag
well to be fair, the tv announcers blamed that one on JJ. if he had any pocket awareness, he would have stepped up in the pocket and the protection would have been perfect.
but also, ciron black has been awful and totally ruined his draft stock
but also, ciron black has been awful and totally ruined his draft stock
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:54 pm to TigahRag
Because he didn't get beat. Black shoved the guy 10 yards away from line. It isn't Black's fault that JJ has no pocket awareness.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:54 pm to MemphisJerk
JJ needs to step up in the pocket, u want to force a speed rusher back like he did, JJ took like a 12 step drop right into him
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:54 pm to TigahRag
because he had his man out of the play until JJ backed up into the sack
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:54 pm to MemphisJerk
We've seen since the beginning of the season that Ciron won't be playing on Sunday's. I don't know if it's mental, or poor coaching, but he has all the ingredients for success, and yet it has eluded him.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:54 pm to TigahRag
ciron definately got beat, but it is just as much jefferson's fault. he needs to step up in the pocket and get rid of the ball quicker.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:55 pm to MemphisJerk
b/c he did what every OT is supposed to do. he got a hand on the guy and pushed him around the pocket. QBs are supposed to step up into the pocket. JJ stepped back and by doing that, blew up the pocket.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:55 pm to TigahRag
Perhaps it was because it was a good block. If JJ had stepped into the pocket instead of moving sideways and backwards, that guy never would have had a shot at him. One of the few times this year I've felt Ciron gave a good effort.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:55 pm to TigahRag
JJ stepped back into the Ole Miss DE. He should have stepped up. Ciron did nothing wrong on that play.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:55 pm to TigahRag
Ciron blocked the DE to the outside and JJ walked into the sack
if he had moved up in the pocket, he gets and extra 2-3 seconds
if he had moved up in the pocket, he gets and extra 2-3 seconds
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:55 pm to alajones
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Because he didn't get beat. Black shoved the guy 10 yards away from line. It isn't Black's fault that JJ has no pocket awareness.
Yea it's staggering how many people (including our starting QB) have little understanding of the QB pocket concept.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:55 pm to LSU-MNCBABY
Black did a great job blocking on that play. Tackles are taught to push their man out of the play, had JJ stepped up like he's supposed to, then black would have done exactly as his job is described.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:56 pm to TigahRag
He did what he was coached to do on the play. He drove the guy outside and up the field.
It was JJ's "fault" for scrambling instead of stepping up in the pocket ( like an experienced QB would).
It was JJ's "fault" for scrambling instead of stepping up in the pocket ( like an experienced QB would).
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:57 pm to TigahRag
The call was the coaching staff's fault. The sack was Jefferson's fault. Black did exactly what an OL should have done. He forced his guy to the outside. The QB should have step UP into the pocket and avoided the sack. Instead, JJ ran backwards and to the right, right into the sack.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:57 pm to MemphisJerk
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Because he shouldn't have even been in pass blocking situation. He should have been run blocking 3 times in a fricking row, period, end of story.
well, no fricking shite .. but since we did drop back to pass .. if his man doesn't sack jefferson, he runs out of the pocket, completes a pass, or throws it out of bounds ...
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:58 pm to The Godfather
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because he had his man out of the play until JJ backed up into the sack
like i said, i was at the game in the end zone .. looked like the guy just straight up beat him ..
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:58 pm to TigahRag
Dude, rewatch the play. It was NOT Black's fault.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 12:59 pm to Ash Williams
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Black did a great job blocking on that play. Tackles are taught to push their man out of the play, had JJ stepped up like he's supposed to, then black would have done exactly as his job is described.
i'd like to see a replay on that .. i don't think black played the technique some are claiming here ...
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