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WIll Bama completely scrap the "Wildcat"..
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:00 pm
or work on getting Ingram to actually throw the ball? I think it would be a terrible idea to let him throw against LSU's secondary. On the other hand though, while at times it has been terribly frustrating to see it, the way LSU has used RS could definitely play into our favor. Bama knows this kid can take it the distance and basically every time he's in the game, he gets the ball. They will be forced to play the run when he's in the game. This would be a perfect time to let shep line up in a wildcat and throw it down field.
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Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:16 pm to MemphisJerk
Why would they completely scrap it? It's another wrinkle to throw at a defense.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:17 pm to MemphisJerk
Why would Alabama "scrap" a formation that is averaging over 7 yards a play? 
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:18 pm to TideSaint
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Why would Alabama "scrap" a formation that is averaging over 7 yards a play?
exactly. I didn't see the UT game, but damn did Ingram run it down SC's a few wks back. love the way that guy runs.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:18 pm to TideSaint
Ingram dominated out of the wildcat last week. Why scrap it?
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:20 pm to ATLTiger
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I didn't see the UT game, but damn did Ingram run it down SC's a few wks back.
He did the same to UT, but McElwain went bat-shite crazy and stopped giving him the ball in the 3rd quarter.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:21 pm to The Blind Side
I'm seeing 9-10 guys in the box if they line up in the wildcat until Ingram throws it, I can't imagine him running like that on our D, and I'd bet Saban doesn't imagine that either.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:29 pm to MemphisJerk
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I can't imagine him running like that on our D
I can. our line hasn't been that stout, they can be bend don't break, which plays into what Bama wants to do. I'm betting they'll give us steady doses of Ingram in either the wildcat or traditional sets until we can stop it.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:33 pm to TideSaint
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Why would Alabama "scrap" a formation that is averaging over 7 yards a play?
Saban is taking a page from Miles, scrapping plays that work very well
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:34 pm to ATLTiger
Oh I see him getting plenty of yards in the I formation, but just not out of the wildcat. Near the end of the UT game when Kiffin Sr was just putting 9 or 10 guys up playing the run, I was thinking Bama has got to let Ingram throw against LSU or this will never work. Thats the whole point of the Wildcat is you don't know who the QB is, but if you never throw the ball, it doesn't matter.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:34 pm to Chimlim
Scrapping their best formation? Lmao.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:37 pm to ATLTiger
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Not to be arguementive- but at this point I would definitely put ole miss and tenn's front 4 ahead of lsu's front (4) with S. Car being very close.
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can't imagine him running like that on our D
Not to be arguementive- but at this point I would definitely put ole miss and tenn's front 4 ahead of lsu's front (4) with S. Car being very close.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:46 pm to footballmania
Our front 4 is not big on rushing the passer, but they do a pretty good job stopping the run...in particular a physical, run it right at you type run game.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:52 pm to Guesser
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Our front 4 is not big on rushing the passer, but they do a pretty good job stopping the run...in particular a physical, run it right at you type run game.
I hope to god you're right about that. I've been thinking just the opposite. It seems to me we've had trouble stopping off tackle and dive plays. Miss St was running it right at us with success late in the game, and against Florida the damn dive play was working for 4-6 yards a pop (of course I had been drinking and it may not have been as bad as I remember).
This post was edited on 10/28/09 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:54 pm to noladan
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Miss St was running it right at us with success late in the game
They hit you up for over 150 yards that game.
Posted on 10/28/09 at 1:58 pm to TideSaint
The key difference is they (Fla and Miss St) had another option or 2 on the play. With BAMA's slewfoot QB, and not much "deception" in what they do, our guys will be just fine. BAMA is a pro style offense with mostly run and play action.
I know its not entirely the same, but consider how stout our run D is on goaline or short yardage situations. If they are keying on one back, they are nasty.
I know its not entirely the same, but consider how stout our run D is on goaline or short yardage situations. If they are keying on one back, they are nasty.
This post was edited on 10/28/09 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 10/28/09 at 2:04 pm to Guesser
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Saban is taking a page from Miles, scrapping plays that work very well
So you're saying Saban is winning with Miles's playcalling philosophy??
This post was edited on 10/28/09 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 10/28/09 at 2:30 pm to MemphisJerk
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I'm seeing 9-10 guys in the box if they line up in the wildcat until Ingram throws it, I can't imagine him running like that on our D, and I'd bet Saban doesn't imagine that either.
Well to answer you, there are plays installed to throw out of it, so stacking the box to that degree would be a mistake. A good example would be in the Arkansas game where we reversed then pitched it to McElroy(whod be a reciever in the wildcat they didnt cover) and he let it fly deep to julio for an easy touchdown. I personally would play man with 8 in the box. If that isnt enough to stop it i dont know what you can do aside from going multiple on it and hope you guess right.
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