It seems character does matter

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DUCK! - I've tried explaining that it's a 50/50 proposition for success no matter how many stars, but many who follow recruiting are sold on the "expertise" of internet "recruiting gurus"

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Its complete coincidence that the top 10 in recruiting year after year are the ones winning national championships year after year.

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Its complete coincidence that the top 10 in recruiting year after year are the ones winning national championships year after year

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I think you are missing his point and the point of the article. He is not saying that we shouldn't sign highly recruited players. That would just not be intelligent. What i believe he is trying to say, and the article was trying to say is that just because someone is ranked high doesn't mean they are going to pan out. Also, and this really applies to a lot of people on this board, just because we don't sign EVERY SINGLE 5 STAR OR 4 STAR RECRUIT doesn't mean they are going to pan out and become all-americans. If you look at some of the 3 stars and even 1 2 star (jacob hester) we have signed over the past years, they have actually been good to us. And it is really amazing that the same number of 4 and 5 stars have not panned out for us. So i think he was trying to say that we sholdn't get our panties in a wad about these 17 year old kids and just let them play football and understand that some of them are not going to be the next jerry rice or joe montana.

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...a very valid point that overall rankings are significantly correlated to success.

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The article and my comment was about Individual Star Ratings.

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I would be interested to know the percentage of 5 stars that get drafted versus the percentage of 3 and 4 stars? Seems like it is kind of a numbers game. The more 5 stars you sign, the better your chances of getting a star player.

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About 50% of 5 stars are drafted.

I think the numbers for 4 stars are around 10-15% are drafted.

3 stars it gets slim to something like 2%-5%

2 stars are around 1% I think.

These numbers are off the top of my head. There are plenty of studies that have been done with these calculations.

Bama recruits are 70% likely to be arrested.

according to rivals he was. I couldn't believe it either. And I wasn't trying to say we don't need to get 4 and 5 star recruits. I was saying that we can't get them all even guys in our home state will go to other schools and I have seen some crazy over-the-top reactions to some people when a recruit that might've been interests in lsu goes somewhere else. It happens and it's not the end of lsu. That's what I was trying to say.

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bullshite...no way hester was a two star.

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Not this again. I wonder who the most succssful 1 and 2 stars in history are? Hester has to be top 3 among 2 stars.

Spend some more time on the Recruiting Board and we'll see.

1.) Not based on internet message boards, but rather on experience.
2.) Don't know anything about RAT, but I do know about Rivals and the answer would still be yes.

Bobby Burton - I worked in the video dept at the University of Texas as an undergrad for three years, taping practice and games, doing down-and-distance cut-ups for the offense and defense for scouting purposes, cutting recruits highlight tapes and creating recruiting highlight video packages to be played on the big screen. After that, I went to the University of Houston as a GA, where I was asst recruiting coordinator, and was responsible for all first video evaluation, and specifically tasked on a higher level with discovering players in the non-California JUCOs (meaning Texas, Kansas and Mississippi jucos). I (along with the offense GA and defense GA) also was responsible for every mailing we ever did to every kid on the recruiting list. From there, I went to Ball High in Galveston and was an asst coach. After that, I was hired by the National Recruiting Advisor and ended up being part owner, then came Rivals, etc. I've been doing this in some form or fashion since 1988.

Greg Ladky - This year is the first year I have had input into the Rivals rankings. I am beginning my fourth year with the company. My playing experience goes through high school- Marquette High School. After that, I fell in love with Rugby. A tougher sport!!!!! I kid, I kid. Anyways, after about three years on the road covering the nation's top prospects for all those AMP features you see, I was given the opportunity to be a part of the rankings process. Of course, there was good reason I was not a part of that stuff from the start, I needed a few years to learn about the things that make a good prospect. Once I had a couple years to see how the talent on the H.S. level that crossed my eyes at camps and games translated to the college level, I could become a part of the rankings process. So, as far as playing and/or coaching experince, I am not up there with the other guys on the staff, but having seen more prospects the last three years across the entire nation than anyone else in this business/industry, some of this rankings stuff has started to make sense, and I have been able to contribute to the rankings process.

Barton Simmons - I'm the pup of the group. I played high school football in Nashville where we won a couple state championships with MBA and were nationally ranked as seniors. I had scholarship offers from some middle/lower tier schools like Vanderbilt, Duke and Furman but took my football career to Yale University. At Yale I was a four year starter, two-time all-conference safety. Tore my ACL in what would've been my senior year and spent the season as essentially a student assistant breaking up film with coaches and running the scout team between rehab. I've been with Rivals for two years - still learning from Bobby et al.

Mike Farrell - I played high school ball in Connecticut but never went past that, too slow. As I began to write for Rivals I sat with numerous assistant coaches, recruiting coordinators and head coaches from college as well as high school before I was allowed to help with rankings, etc. I also feel I have always had a natural eye for talent, something the higher ups at Rivals also saw in me way back when when I first started. I can't name names for obvious reasons, but I've spent time with some of the best talent evaluators in the country in college as well as some NFL scouts for more than seven years now and have learned (and continue to learn) what to look for in a prospect.

Barry Every - What are my credentials. Well I started in recruiting at the Univeristy of North Carolina under Mack Brown. There I help do intial search and background on prospects while also cutting up game tape into highlights. I also helped the Director of Football Operations in his daily duties. After two full years I was lured away from UNC to FSU mainly for the recruiting side, but I also helped out with other daily logistical duties like (Checking Sebastian Janikowski room once a week to helping with team travel.) But 90% of what I did at FSU was collect all the video from 100's of schools and break it down for the coaches to evaluate. I also played a big part in official and unofficial visits ast the University. I also wrote 1000's of the hand written letters to the top recruits. After four seasons at FSU I moved onto to UGA for 7 years. Where I did pretty much the same with the exception of more responsibilities in team travel.