you got cap questions

I read that this morning its has good info. What I don't understand is why can't they just restructure the biggest contracts and back load them to 2010 which will be a year without a cap.

they are going to come up with a new collective bargaining agreement before then. Probably one that is less cap accelerating than the one currently in use. One big change will be rookie pay.

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we're fricked.

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not really

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David Patten, Brian Young, Mark Simoneau and Jamar Nesbit also are candidates for release or restructure. All are veteran players nearing the end of their careers that have experienced injuries or suspensions in the past year and seen their roles reduced. Their releases would collectively save the club more than $6 million.

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if this is true, they're fricked

and we're about $1.5M under the cap

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Saints officials are expected to meet with McAllister in the next week or two to determine his future. He has indicated he'd be willing to restructure his contract to remain with the team in a lesser role, but it's unclear if the Saints are willing to consider that option. If he is released, it would create more than $4 million in cap savings.

McKenzie is in a similar to position to McAllister a year ago. He's carrying a large cap figure -- almost $6 million -- is entering the final year of his contract and is coming off two major knee injuries. The Saints could save $4.5 million by releasing him, but instead probably will seek cap relief through a restructured contract.

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if his #s are correct, that's $8.5M more

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Brees' cap charge increases from $9 million to $14 million.

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if we extend brees, we can prolly cut this down to $4-5M

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We need to get rid of Bush piece of trash not worth 12 mil. Also restructure Smith and Grants contract. If not GTFO they didnt do shite this year. Drop Deuce he is getting to old.

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Sometimes I wish they had a requirement of a standardized test with a minimum score in order to obtain posting privileges...

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I thought you were the cap guru SFP???

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if we have the information, i can do the #s

however the NFl has become assholish about releasing real #s on contracts

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You claimed we would have something like $11M to work with.

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THIS season we had something like $8M in cap space that we wasted

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You also harped over and over and over about how we screwed up by not using all of the cap room last season, but if we did, we would just be in even worse shape this year.

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if we moved $8M from 2009 contracts to 2008 then we'd have $8M more in 2009 to spend

They'll figure this thing out. I trust Loomis and Payton know what needs to be done and they will get the numbers where they need to be. Plus, we have some pretty good guys here that will be willing to help the cap space with their contracts as well. I truly think we will be able to resign key guys and add maybe 1 (hopefully 2) quality player(s) to the fold.

You may see that because what is going on behind closed doors right now is not availible to us. Just last week, the day of the Williams hire, Payton came on sports talk and said that they just spent the last 3 days going over each individual player on the roster and evaluating each position. I have a feeling that's what they are doing as we speak is freeing up room, making adjustments, trimming some fat (old players with large salaries) and preparing to get some top notch players in here to make an impact next season.

Trust me when I say no matter how smart we think we are about the cap room, money, and player contracts (SFP), Loomis and the FO are well aware and smarter than the average TD Saints Talker here. So, if there is room to be make to get under the cap for free agency and resigns, they'll find it. I believe in them and have faith they can do it.

correct me if I am wrong(probably am), but isn't most of this worry concerning cap space about three weeks premature. From what I understood, incentives written into contracts are not calculated until after the superbowl. Some of these incentive amounts are huge but are also practically unreachable. Unused incentive dollar amounts which were calculated against last years cap are credited towards the 2009 cap.

Because contracts are such highly guarded NFL secrets, We will not really know what kind of shape we are in until after the superbowl.

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correct me if I am wrong(probably am)

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You aren't, but I don't think you're going to see significant funds being freed up. I'm 90% sure it only does this with likely to be earned incentives. Later I will check up on Bush's weird restructuring he did in the offseason and see if he missed any of them.

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Loomis and the FO are well aware and smarter than the average TD Saints Talker here.

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Yes, but having a team this talented, leaving $8m unspent is inexcusable. They could have given Evans a 4 year ~$5m a year deal and given him $7m last season, letting us have him for 3 more years on the cheap.

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I read something in that article about getting a cap credit to go to the next year that I had never heard of before.

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i've never heard of this also

some of his #s don't seem realistic either, so i don't know what to believe