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Screw Sean Payton

Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:37 pm
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
1933 posts
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:37 pm
I have had enough of Payton. Throw the fricking ball on 4th and short and learn how and when to challenge a play. He has cost the Saints this game wtih his shitty play calling and misuse of the challenge.
Besides his first year I have not been impressed with Payton. He can not draft and every free agent he has brought in except Vilma is a dud.
This post was edited on 10/20/08 at 8:36 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:38 pm to
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. He can not draft and every free agent he has brought in except Vilma is a dud.


fujita, gay?
This post was edited on 10/19/08 at 2:39 pm
Posted by dax9876
Member since Aug 2004
1210 posts
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:39 pm to
I agree with this.
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
1933 posts
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:41 pm to
quote:

fujita, gay?


If that is the best you can come up with it just proves my point. Gay is a nickle back at best (see Patriot years) and Fujita can not cover for shite.
Posted by tennisanyone2
Member since Dec 2007
3913 posts
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:43 pm to
he's a glorified college coach...

too many amateurish moves to be considerd a good coach...

stupid challenges, gimmicky offensee
Posted by TIGERSofCHAOS
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
838 posts
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

I have had enough of Payton.


+1
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/19/08 at 2:54 pm to
quote:

If that is the best you can come up with it just proves my point. Gay is a nickle back at best (see Patriot years) and Fujita can not cover for shite.


How about Drew Brees?

Gay won a super bowl as a starting DB for the Patriots

Now from the Draft: Reggie, Coltson (another horrible pick), Roman Harper, Jahri Evans, Ellis, Porter, and Nicks.

He has had 1 bad draft and 2 stellar drafts
This post was edited on 10/19/08 at 2:55 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110841 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 3:09 am to
quote:

How about Drew Brees?

Gay won a super bowl as a starting DB for the Patriots

Now from the Draft: Reggie, Coltson (another horrible pick), Roman Harper, Jahri Evans, Ellis, Porter, and Nicks.

He has had 1 bad draft and 2 stellar drafts


And with all that talent he has amassed, we've gone 10-13 the past 2 seasons.
Posted by SaintsFanInFL
Spring Hill, FL
Member since Sep 2008
164 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 3:22 am to
10-13 the last two seasons. God, it doesn't seem like that but when I look back at it, wow, its true. Its amazing that with such an offensive powerhouse, we are a below average team. I don't know what to say anymore.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
18756 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:00 am to
Brees could be the best FA pickup in the history of the league, Vilma was a great pickup as well. However, that doesn't explain the other shite moves. I don't care who you have, if you can't win you can't win.

His man crush on Reggie is costing us. Duce has been conspicously absent in big plays and series but is the same guy on other plays. He gets the tough yards over and over. When there's nothing he still moves the pile. Shockey has about a dozen catches, two fumbles,and is probaby out again.

The Reggie Duce thing looks like Haz with Brooks and Jake.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:03 am to
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How about Drew Brees?


a. we only got brees because the dolphins medical staff fricked up

b. brees was brought in before/around the payton hire, so you can't put it on him

i don't know how much influence payton has, but you can't really give him any credit for brees
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46978 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:04 am to
quote:


His man crush on Reggie is costing us.


Are you stupid? Reggie is the whole reason Brees is so good.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Now from the Draft: Reggie, Coltson (another horrible pick), Roman Harper, Jahri Evans, Ellis, Porter, and Nicks.

colston is great
reggie is good
evans is good

harper is ok
porter is ok

nicks is an unknown

and i still think they went the wrong route for a DT, personally. not that i don't like ellis
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:06 am to
quote:

Reggie is the whole reason Brees is so good.

not quite
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77395 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:32 am to
quote:

brees was brought in before/around the payton hire, so you can't put it on him

incorrect
Payton was hired in mid January
Brees was signed in March

Payton deserves at least a little credit for that
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77395 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:32 am to
quote:

porter is ok

nicks is an unknown

both are rookies, both could be great
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
1933 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:33 am to
quote:

How about Drew Brees?


If you read my original post again I was omitting his first year. Alot of coaches do well the first year and then fall off when game film can be studied and tendencies learned.

quote:

Besides his first year I have not been impressed with Payton. He can not draft and every free agent he has brought in except Vilma is a dud.


I also failed to mention how Payton has totally f*$ked up the kicking game. He had John Carney who was money from 45 yards or closer, but b/c he could not kick it in the endzone on kickoffs he trades for a washed up O. Marre (sp?) who doesn't amount to shite and the he brings in another washed up kicker in M Gramatica (sp?). If we still have Carney instead of the other two you could add 2 wins to this years record and a few others to last years record.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77395 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:36 am to
and now we have a kicker who is doing good, you people are unbelievable
Posted by Mouth
Member since Jan 2008
20969 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:38 am to
quote:

a. we only got brees because the dolphins medical staff fricked up

b. brees was brought in before/around the payton hire, so you can't put it on him

i don't know how much influence payton has, but you can't really give him any credit for brees



what a douche you are!
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
77395 posts
Posted on 10/20/08 at 8:38 am to
quote:

He has cost the Saints this game wtih his shitty play calling and misuse of the challenge.

say what you will about the playcalling, but I believe he should have won that "down by contact" challenge. The guy ran into colston and fell down, how is that not down by contact?
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