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Youth 410 HELP
Posted on 12/26/14 at 7:57 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 7:57 am
My lil man is wanting to get into squirrel hunting pretty badly. I wanna get him a 410 but dont want the cheap rossi model cause it kicks like a mule. I want to get him something he can hang on to for years to come. Something someone has that they been thinking of parting with. Can any of you guys help me out?
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Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:07 am to Dcook2
How little is he? Would a 20ga semi be out of the question? That's something he would use for the rest of his life. I don't think there are very many middle of the road 410s made. I started with the crack barrel, probably like most people here.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:16 am to DownSouthDave
He's 8. I have thought about the Youth 20 but i'm no expert. He is not strong enough to hold up a full length gun. I have tried.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:16 am to DownSouthDave
Mossberg makes a 410 simi - youth that you can add a butt extension (comes with gun) that makes it a regular youth gun. It's a pump but comes with a long plug which makes it a single shot. When your comfortable - cut the plug. My nephew loves his and has shot many a squirrel. He's a very small so a 20ga wasn't an option.
Edt. Under $200 at cabelas.
Edt. Under $200 at cabelas.
This post was edited on 12/26/14 at 8:18 am
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:24 am to 633tiger
Also a fan of the mossberg pump.
He'll have a good rabbit gun for life
He'll have a good rabbit gun for life
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:33 am to Dcook2
go with the 20
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:35 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
A pump is going to hit as hard as a single shot. Does anyone make a semi auto 410?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:36 am to Dcook2
I grew up on a savage bolt action .410 with box mag. Great gun. Killed lots of squirrels as a kid with it.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:41 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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New England Firearms (NEF) youth model .410 crack barrel is what you need. $125 and Ive had mine for over 20 years. I also have a 20 gauge like this. They are great guns for the money and are beautiful. A 20 gauge model wouldnt be a bad idea as he would get lifelong use out of it for deer hunting (slugs, buckshot) and possibly waterfowl although 1 round would not be ideal.
New England Firearms (NEF) youth model .410 crack barrel is what you need. $125 and Ive had mine for over 20 years. I also have a 20 gauge like this. They are great guns for the money and are beautiful. A 20 gauge model wouldnt be a bad idea as he would get lifelong use out of it for deer hunting (slugs, buckshot) and possibly waterfowl although 1 round would not be ideal.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:43 am to DownSouthDave
Doesn't have nearly the kick as a single shot. If your dead set on a semi auto - I think remington makes a youth model 1100 but your going to pay out your arse for it.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:57 am to Dcook2
Get some reduced recoil shotgun shells, deciding between high brass and low brass is not good enough...
Posted on 12/26/14 at 8:57 am to Dcook2
Remington 1100 comes in a 410, but it is costly. I would look at one of the pumps or even a bolt 410. I got both about the age of your son (in the late 60's) and still use for squirrel hunting.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:01 am to 633tiger
May have a little more mass, but the difference in felt recoil is minimal, you're still taking the whole kick in one moment. without moving the budget up to buy a semi, the other option is to put a big recoil pad on the stock. I don't know how much those really help.
Seasons almost over, maybe wait til next year and he may be able to handle something a little bigger?
Seasons almost over, maybe wait til next year and he may be able to handle something a little bigger?
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:05 am to rattlebucket
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bolt action .410 with box mag.
I have a Mossberg like this.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:21 am to 633tiger
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Mossberg makes a 410 semi - youth that you can add a butt extension (comes with gun) that makes it a regular youth gun. It's a pump but comes with a long plug which makes it a single shot. When your comfortable - cut the plug.
This.
It's called Mossberg Model 500 Super Bantam (this is the one we bought). They also have one called Mini-Bantam. Both weigh around 5 pounds, and both have removable shims in the stock to shorten the length of pull.
I never found a single shot .410 that weighed as little as this pump.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:33 am to dawg23
I have an H&R 410 crack barrel and a 20 gauge crack barrel youth models my father gave me at 8 and 10. I still shoot squirrel with the 410 and I keep the 20 in my toolbox of my truck. Great guns. I believe Remington bought them out.
As a man in his 50's to shoot a squirrel with a gun his father gave him at the age of 8 it's a special feeling I can assure you. Get him the 410 now and the 20 later. No reason he can't grow up with both. I've got more my father gave me at various ages that when I shoot bring me back to that particular time in my life. And that's always a good thing.
As a man in his 50's to shoot a squirrel with a gun his father gave him at the age of 8 it's a special feeling I can assure you. Get him the 410 now and the 20 later. No reason he can't grow up with both. I've got more my father gave me at various ages that when I shoot bring me back to that particular time in my life. And that's always a good thing.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:37 am to Dcook2
I apologize for not being OB rich and not really wanting to spend that much. I'm wanting to buy a lil crack barrel youth model.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:41 am to Dcook2
All the crack barrels are pretty much going to have the same recoil, Rossi or not. So pick which one you like within your budget and have a blast.
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:43 am to DownSouthDave
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All the crack barrels are pretty much going to have the same recoil, Rossi or not. So pick which one you like within your budget and have a blast.
That is where shell selection comes into play. More choices in a 20 than a .410...
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:59 am to dnm3305
Those are good for any kid.
If the kid is strong enough to hold it up like he's supposed to he'll be able to handle the recoil. I was shooting one at 5 and I wasn't a big kid.
If the kid is strong enough to hold it up like he's supposed to he'll be able to handle the recoil. I was shooting one at 5 and I wasn't a big kid.
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