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Who is doing summer plots for deer? What ya'll planting?
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:04 pm
I'm looking to plant something within the next 3 weeks or a month. I hunt about 15 minutes south of Vicksburg. There are several soybean fields a couple miles north of us and peanut fields a few miles south of us on the natchez trace. Our place is mostly hardwoods, with some steep bottoms so we don't have any huge plots. Our biggest plot is probably 1.5 acres. I'm leaning to planting soybeans because I feed harvested harvested soybeans in gravity feeders and the deer seem to like them. I also know they are full of protein. Any advice would be appreciated. I'd love to plant the soybeans that grow like 4 or 5 feet tall and are made for livestock. Any other recommendations?
Also, I have one small spot I'm wanting to plant, thats never been planted before. It's in a steep bottom and it stays kind of wet with not the greatest looking soil, but I found a lot of deer sign and had a lot of pictures of bucks in there this past year. It's in a good location with bedding not being very far and a spring fed creek flows beside it. It's just a pretty spot that is secluded. Any advice on what to plant there?
Also, I have one small spot I'm wanting to plant, thats never been planted before. It's in a steep bottom and it stays kind of wet with not the greatest looking soil, but I found a lot of deer sign and had a lot of pictures of bucks in there this past year. It's in a good location with bedding not being very far and a spring fed creek flows beside it. It's just a pretty spot that is secluded. Any advice on what to plant there?
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Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:24 pm to Dylan
Depending on the deer population your acre or so plot wont ever produce a bean. It will stay mowed down never reaching more than a few inches.
There are some clover varieties out there that contain up to 32% protein you may want to look into. (Whitetail Institute)
In the south / southeast I don't know if summer plots are that beneficial. There is a lot of native browse.
American beautyberry (French mulberry), Beggar’s lice, Brambles blackberries/dewberries, muscadine, Greenbriar, Poison ivy, Pokeweed (poke salad), Ragweed, rattan vine, devil’s walking stick, aster and trumpet creeper.
Fertilizing the native species and establishing some good mineral sites could do just as much good as the best summer plot advertised.
I just bought a new mineral im trying. They actually have a moneyback guarantee. If you feel your deer aren't bigger after 2 years they will refund you up to 5 of their 20lb mineral buckets per year. I found it to contain more calcium than other mostly salt type blocks.
There are some clover varieties out there that contain up to 32% protein you may want to look into. (Whitetail Institute)
In the south / southeast I don't know if summer plots are that beneficial. There is a lot of native browse.
American beautyberry (French mulberry), Beggar’s lice, Brambles blackberries/dewberries, muscadine, Greenbriar, Poison ivy, Pokeweed (poke salad), Ragweed, rattan vine, devil’s walking stick, aster and trumpet creeper.
Fertilizing the native species and establishing some good mineral sites could do just as much good as the best summer plot advertised.
I just bought a new mineral im trying. They actually have a moneyback guarantee. If you feel your deer aren't bigger after 2 years they will refund you up to 5 of their 20lb mineral buckets per year. I found it to contain more calcium than other mostly salt type blocks.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:48 pm to Dylan
we're fixing to do a pretty big patch of cow peas (iron clay peas) to see if they'll grow. We've wasted lots and lots of money on seed and never get rain timely.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 1:55 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
I've set up several sites with just red mineral salt that the deer are tearing up. I've read studies that no combination of minerals will make a deer grow larger antlers. They did several studies on fenced deer by penn state and Mississippi state I believe. I'm not saying I buy that just what I've read. They say it may help with doe milk production though. Also I've heard of deer eating the soybeans before they ever get a chance to come up, but there are some varieties I've read that once ate down they keep coming back. They are expensive, but I've heard work well. I've also thought about the fact theres so much natural vegetation it won't help, but I want to try it for 2 or 3 years just to see 1.) if my deer antler size for age seems to improve or 2.) to see if it helps my hunting and number of deer being seen.
Basically experimenting on our property being we haven't had it a year yet and it seems to have potential to be very good.
Basically experimenting on our property being we haven't had it a year yet and it seems to have potential to be very good.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 2:17 pm to Dylan
Yea Ive read those studies. I just p[personally think that if a deer's body has to choose on calcium, potassium, etc going to the horns for growth or body for survival then the horns will end up on the short end. The idea of providing that extra seems like a benefit. If anything it may help to keep them from breaking off points later in the season.
I still have several rack bucks appearing on camera yet to shed theirs. This is what bothers me the most. Ive been looking for a good late summer product / plot that will mature and have the maximum protein / mineral output around August.
I still have several rack bucks appearing on camera yet to shed theirs. This is what bothers me the most. Ive been looking for a good late summer product / plot that will mature and have the maximum protein / mineral output around August.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 2:32 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Antler development has more to do with age than mineral uptake. During the first three years the bulk of mineral intake is allocated to skeletal development, afterwards the excess minerals are used for antler production. This is the main reason a 4.5 year old deer has a much larger rack than a 3.5 year old - his skeletal system is 100% developed.
Best spring food plots I've found are Mean Bean Crush and cow peas
Best spring food plots I've found are Mean Bean Crush and cow peas
Posted on 4/23/15 at 2:34 pm to SomeGuyFromLA
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Antler development has more to do with age than mineral uptake
Well yea that's pretty obvious. But you can also maximize the potential of a 3 or 4 year old through supplemental feeding / plots / etc
Posted on 4/23/15 at 3:20 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
True. Should I even ask about tree planting in this thread? 
as I've stated our place is mostly hardwoods, so acorns are everywhere, but the neighbors also have hardwoods. I was thinking of pushing out our biggest plot and making it a little bigger maybe 2-2.5 acres and planting some dunsten chestnuts and fruit trees maybe? Also planting the fruit trees scattered through the property, primarily over bow spots. I know they will have to be protected from deer rubbing them and other critters as well. Good idea or bad? Advice on planting layout, etc, etc?
as I've stated our place is mostly hardwoods, so acorns are everywhere, but the neighbors also have hardwoods. I was thinking of pushing out our biggest plot and making it a little bigger maybe 2-2.5 acres and planting some dunsten chestnuts and fruit trees maybe? Also planting the fruit trees scattered through the property, primarily over bow spots. I know they will have to be protected from deer rubbing them and other critters as well. Good idea or bad? Advice on planting layout, etc, etc? Posted on 4/23/15 at 3:27 pm to Dylan
That's something I have future plans for. I cant find a reason against having a pear tree in a plot They fricking love pears.
They fricking love pears. Posted on 4/23/15 at 5:18 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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I still have several rack bucks appearing on camera yet to shed theirs.
In late April? I've seen late March but never this late
Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:10 pm to winner
I just put cameras on a new place in southwest Mississippi and on April 8th had two bucks with both sides
Posted on 4/23/15 at 7:38 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
My cameras as of last Saturday still had Bucks with Antlers. Havent found a shed yet here in North Alabama.
Back on topic, we planted pears and plums last year at the edges of our food plots. I think all fo them were 3 gallon size trees when we planted them. Surrounded them with fencing to kee pthe deer off till they get bigger. We plan to add some apples as well this year.
Back on topic, we planted pears and plums last year at the edges of our food plots. I think all fo them were 3 gallon size trees when we planted them. Surrounded them with fencing to kee pthe deer off till they get bigger. We plan to add some apples as well this year.
Posted on 4/23/15 at 10:35 pm to Chris4x4gill2
Anyone know much about dunsten chestnuts?
Posted on 4/24/15 at 4:48 am to Dylan
If it ever dries up Ima planting soy beans and corn. Might also try some sunflower.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:24 am to Dylan
Before planting anything, you may want to have your soil tested or be sure to know what will/will not grow on your property. We looked into planting soy beans at our hunting land last summer and after consulting with a couple farmers and land owners nearby, we learned that soy beans do not grow well in our area.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 8:37 am to Nascar Fan
We have 26 bushels to plant that's about 3 weeks late because of rain
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:12 am to PhioftheTiger1915
Yeah I need to get my PH tested, but theres several huge soybean fields within 1.5 miles of us so I know they'll grow in the area.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:38 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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We have 26 bushels to plant that's about 3 weeks late because of rain
Yep im late & and it ain't close to drying out.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 3:56 pm to Nascar Fan
with all this rain, your puddle(pond) has to be at least 3" deep. 
This post was edited on 4/24/15 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 4/24/15 at 4:21 pm to hogdaddy
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