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Which camping backpack should I buy?

Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:00 pm
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:00 pm
I'm trying to decide between these two. My wife and I are going to Big Bend and I will be carrying the bulk of the supplies. She will have a much smaller bag. I'm just happy to go and I'm in good shape to carry a heavy pack.


Which one?

Kelty Red Cloud 90 (90 liters)
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Mountain Apex 100 (100 liter)
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I can get either bag for $150. We are staying 4 days and 3 nights. I was planning on tying the tent to the bottom exterior of my backpack, is this ok?





Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21517 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:03 pm to
My suggestion is the smaller. I like Kelty myself anyway. Smaller bag means you will be able to pack less, which you will appreciate while the bag is on your back.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Which one?

Kelty Red Cloud 90 (90 liters)
LINK

Mountain Apex 100 (100 liter)
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I wouldn't have anything larger than 70 liters. My week pack (7 days, 6 nights) is a 45 liter.

quote:

I was planning on tying the tent to the bottom exterior of my backpack, is this ok?



It will be hitting you in your arse if you don't tie it tight, but yes. I carry a camping chair under my pack just fine.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124466 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 5:08 pm to
The more lightweight the better
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 5:12 pm to
Kelty is great quality. Not sure about Mountain Apex.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89551 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Kelty is great quality.


I have a Red Cloud (I think 90L). Did an 80-miler at Philmont with it. Great pack.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30616 posts
Posted on 4/28/16 at 8:51 pm to
Thanks

I went with the Kelty Red Cloud 90. I felt like I got a pretty good deal on it, $150 with free shipping.


Excited about my trip to Big Bend.









Posted by GumboDave
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
849 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 1:52 pm to
You need to go smaller. I have packed a week into 60L. That is the largest you need to go.

That said, all of your gear needs to be smaller as well. If you have a huge arse sleeping bag that it will take up most of your backpack space. Same for the Tent and sleeping pad. Between those 3 items you should use no more than 40L. Bring one paid of clothes to hike in and one to sleep in. That's it.

Kelty is poor quality and heavy. You need to get either Gregory or Osprey. Even the REI brand is good.


Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22632 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

You need to go smaller. I have packed a week into 60L.

Most likely his gear needs a big pack. Plus Big Bend you need to carry all your water. Unless you can cache it somewhere.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79235 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:00 pm to
I think Kelty is fine quality, it's just not equivalent to better backpacking brands. It'll be durable, and should be relatively comfortable and well designed.

That said, I wouldn't use Kelty for a larger pack or a long trip, although I'm sure OP will be fine. I can't remember the last time I saw someone with more than a 70, 90 is enormous.
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13479 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

You need to get either Gregory or Osprey.


I love my Gregory.

The best advise I can give is go to a REI or specialty camping shop and get fitted for the correct size bag. Your back will thank me later.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 2:13 pm to
I've never carried Mountain Apex but, carried Kelty when I was a poor college kid. It is a very good balance between quality and cost. Those are both massive packs and I am curious what your gear list looks like if in a 90+ liter pack, you're having to put the tent on the outside. It's obviously your choice on what you want to carry and bring with you, just please don't be one of those douchebags that is "in shape" so they bring everything they can think of and then leave lots of gear behind on the trail for everyone else to pack out.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:11 pm to
Both of these bags are overkill imo. Of course if your gear isn't lightweight and packs down easy than I guess you have no choice.

I also don't look at liters as there is no standard in that business. My Black Diamond mission 50 is just over 3100 cubic inches and with top notch gear I can go for 5-7 days depending on the weather. 4 if I'm also packing mountaineering gear.
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4055 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:48 pm to
If I needed 90l to hold my gear I would say it is time for new gear. My winter gear fits in 3300in^3. I would fill it up and take a test hike filled up to find out how long you can really carry all of that weight. I don't know how many people I passed on the Appalachian trail with way too big packs over stuffed who were obviously struggling on the uphills.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 4:53 pm to
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing but without really saying it.

It is however very expensive to be really lightweight. For some they'll never do it much so why invest thousands. I get it but with a really big pack I hope the person is up for that brutal trip.

Hopefully the OP is going on an easy trail.
Posted by JamalSanders
On a boat
Member since Jul 2015
12135 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:03 pm to
My first post was explaining that.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:11 pm to
The depth is astounding kind sir.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31505 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

Osprey



last i checked, Osprey was still making the lightest mainstream packs (as in, not cuben fiber etc and avail at box stores). Exos 48 and 58 are barely over 2 lbs.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35749 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 6:35 pm to
quote:

Exos 48 and 58 are barely over 2 lbs.


The 48 is "barely" over 2 but the 58 isn't. In the backpacking world 6 to 8 ounces is a lot.

These are both great packs, however their load capacity is 40 lbs max. Doesn't sound like the OP has lightweight gear so these won't work for him.

I have the Aether 60 but it's over 5 lbs but built to carry a shite ton of gear.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 5/3/16 at 10:07 pm to
ULA is starting to become more easily available. I highly recommend. Lighter than osprey but definitely for lightweight to ultra light hikers.
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