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re: When buying guns from private sellers how do you know they aren't stolen?
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:17 pm to jimjackandjose
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:17 pm to jimjackandjose
Only read a few post down because this is the right answer. I have done it with LSP and LPSO many times.
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It's very simply. Ask for the serial numbers... Call local sheriff and they will run the serial numbers for you. I have done this 3x with 3 different law enforcement agencies and they are always happy to help.
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Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:23 pm to colorchangintiger
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Yes, and a bill of sale will do nothing.
It can remove some of the criminal liability from you if you're ever stopped with said weapon in possession.
You might still get hit with some smaller charge, but at least not poss. of stolen firearm.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:41 pm to lsu480
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and if you know a friend in Law enforcement you have them run the serial number and or the persons info.
if seller does not want to give serial numbers or numbrs dont match up walk away.
and if you know a friend in Law enforcement you have them run the serial number and or the persons info.
if seller does not want to give serial numbers or numbrs dont match up walk away.
This post was edited on 4/23/13 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 4/23/13 at 12:47 pm to Bleeding purple
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and if you know a friend in Law enforcement you have them run the serial number and or the persons info.
It does not have to be a friend. In Louisiana, you call the dispatcher and they will get someone to run the serial number for you. If you prefer, you can call your local sheriffs department too. Its not hard at all and they are happy to do it. Don't let anybody trick you into thinking that they have a "special" hookup.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 1:01 pm to lsu480
The best thing is to always have the serial# checked and do a bill of sale.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 1:04 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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It does not have to be a friend.
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you know a friend in Law enforcement you have them run the serial number and or the persons info
this part requires a little extra attention.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 1:05 pm to iwasthere
my local sheriff's office refused to do it because they said that if they ran a serial number for a gun that they don't physically have in hand and it comes up stolen they are going to be in some serious trouble. i think he was bs'ing me...
Posted on 4/23/13 at 1:37 pm to jimjackandjose
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Seriously... Tell the seller you need the serial numbers and you are going to run them to ensure the gun is clean before meeting with him. If he disappears and doesnt respond, probably stolen.
If he gives them to you, its literally a five minute phone call to have them verified.
If anyone I've never met before starts asking me for serial numbers of a gun I'm trying to sell, I'm just going to sell it somewhere else.
A decent Bill of sale (there are templates on the internet), should cover you in the event that it turns out to be a stolen firearm. If you're nervous, get their ID and copy the information down yourself. If you get a bad vibe... move on.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 1:41 pm to lsaltee
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my local sheriff's office refused to do it because they said that if they ran a serial number for a gun that they don't physically have in hand and it comes up stolen they are going to be in some serious trouble. i think he was bs'ing me...
Not really, if he runs it in the system, it'll hit, and they if/when they do a system audit, they will ask questions regarding said firearm.
Some departments have policies that allow their officers to do it though.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:09 pm to EMP40 LSU
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If anyone I've never met before starts asking me for serial numbers of a gun I'm trying to sell, I'm just going to sell it somewhere else.
Why? You don't understand their concern?
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A decent Bill of sale (there are templates on the internet), should cover you in the event that it turns out to be a stolen firearm.
Still won't get your money back.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:41 pm to lsu480
You never know unless you have a cop friend who will do that for you before you buy.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:43 pm to EMP40 LSU
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If anyone I've never met before starts asking me for serial numbers of a gun I'm trying to sell, I'm just going to sell it somewhere else.
I would not buy a firearm from you. Not sure why you think this is unusual. Its very common practice and much safer than giving the buyer your telephone number.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:43 pm to Bleeding purple
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this part requires a little extra attention.
I missed that part. You are correct.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:44 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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I would not buy a firearm from you. Not sure why you think this is unusual. Its very common practice and much safer than giving the buyer your telephone number.
There are some security concerns with it, b/c said person could just report the serial number you have as stolen after you give it to them.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:49 pm to brass2mouth
Millions of guns are listed online with the serial numbers posted. Millions of trucks are posted online with the VIN posted. No such problems on a large scale. I would be much more concerned with the buyer posting my phone number on Craigslist.
Also, a good bill of sale will limit any concerns that you may have. But to not give out the serial number is silly.
Also, a good bill of sale will limit any concerns that you may have. But to not give out the serial number is silly.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:55 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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Also, a good bill of sale will limit any concerns that you may have. But to not give out the serial number is silly.
I agree, however there is often times less of a paper trail with a firearm when compared to a vehicle, and there is a slight chance the scenario I mentioned can actually happen.
Like I and others previously stated, a bill of sale will probably get you out of any legal trouble or get the trouble significantly reduced, but wont get you your money back and unless you have the paperwork readily available, you'll spend a day/night in jail more than likely.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 2:59 pm to brass2mouth
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you'll spend a day/night in jail more than likely.
That is why you get the serial number and make sure that its not stolen before you buy it. Not sure where the problem is.
Also, what is keeping the seller from claiming that the gun was stolen after the buyer buys it? Better file that serial number off.
^Point being, anything can happen. Just make sure that the gun isnt stolen and get a BOS. If the seller wont provide a serial number, find another gun, he is already being sketchy.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 3:00 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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Ice Cream Sammich
I agree with you, just bored at home today.
Posted on 4/23/13 at 3:03 pm to brass2mouth
Posted on 4/24/13 at 10:40 am to brass2mouth
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There are some security concerns with it, b/c said person could just report the serial number you have as stolen after you give it to them.
I don't understand this reasoning at all. Can you explain?
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