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What do you think the native Americans deer management consisted of
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:40 pm
Do you think they shot bucks only because they knew does produced fawns?
Went for the larger deer so it would feed more regardless if buck or doe?
Shot everything because deer were plentiful?
Or do you even care?
Deep thoughts
Went for the larger deer so it would feed more regardless if buck or doe?
Shot everything because deer were plentiful?
Or do you even care?
Deep thoughts
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:44 pm to Ron Cheramie
I'm guessing they killed everyone they could.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:47 pm to Ron Cheramie
They shot what they could. With hickory bows and rocks for broad heads, they weren’t going to over-harvest. Ever seems a depiction of a fat Indian? Hell, they followed herds of migrating buffalo as their main source of meat for thousands of years and didn’t over-harvest. Then the white man and his fire-breathing sticks came around and wiped out all of them in a couple decades.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:56 pm to Ron Cheramie
They hunted for food. I doubt there was much management
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:57 pm to tenfoe
Many think the Indians started the demise of the buffalo and European-Americans finished them off.
One tactic they used was cliff jumps - can take a bunch out like that.
One tactic they used was cliff jumps - can take a bunch out like that.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:03 pm to Ron Cheramie
how would they tell buck from doe hunting in the spring?
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:05 pm to weisertiger
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I doubt there was much management
They managed the habitat, we know that much. Southeastern native tribes routinely burned the forests to keep them open for wildlife and to make hunting easier.
As far as managing the deer herd itself, I've never seen any such suggestion. Did they overhunt anything? No. They understood that their lives depended on wildlife, so they only took what they needed.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:08 pm to Ron Cheramie
I'm guessing when you had the opportunity to kill a deer with a bow and arrow that was good for maybe 20 yards, you shot anything possible.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:11 pm to Ron Cheramie
They had it right. No taxes, no regulations, clean air and water, plenty buffalo and deer, medicine man free, hunted and fished all day.
Paleface dumb enough to think he could improve that system.
Paleface dumb enough to think he could improve that system.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:11 pm to Ron Cheramie
Really good book “The Frontiersman” delved into that a little. May be common knowledge or completely untrue. I don’t know, but was the first I’d heard of it.
He says that there was an area in Kentucky that was a sacred hunting ground that the Indians all shared. No one claimed the land and settled there, but everyone hunted there and left it a hunters paradise.
Of course the white hunters and trappers found it and over hunted it. Then they settled there and the rest is history.
This was during the settlement of the Ohio river area. Daniel Boone and Simon Kenton era.
Really good book if anyone is interested.
He says that there was an area in Kentucky that was a sacred hunting ground that the Indians all shared. No one claimed the land and settled there, but everyone hunted there and left it a hunters paradise.
Of course the white hunters and trappers found it and over hunted it. Then they settled there and the rest is history.
This was during the settlement of the Ohio river area. Daniel Boone and Simon Kenton era.
Really good book if anyone is interested.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:27 pm to Ron Cheramie
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What do you think the native Americans deer management consisted of
No hunting, spent all their time drinking fire water and living off government assistance
Posted on 10/1/17 at 8:42 pm to Ron Cheramie
Actually, there are far more deer in La, Ms, and Al now than there were back then. The only real herds were along the Ms River along the flood planes and a few other areas. The habitat just didn't support them. Lots of old growth hardwoods won't support a deer herd.
Everything I've read says that the white tail deer in these states played a minimal part in their diet and culture. Out west, Tx, ok, etc, deer played a huge role.
Everything I've read says that the white tail deer in these states played a minimal part in their diet and culture. Out west, Tx, ok, etc, deer played a huge role.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 9:24 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Paleface dumb enough to think he could improve that system.
I'm with ya for the most part. But, I really like my central AC.
Posted on 10/1/17 at 10:01 pm to BRgetthenet
I would think they filled their freezers and called it a day.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:08 am to sparkinator
Yeah I want to read that one. I'm reading a book about travels through the Carolinas, Georgia and florida in the 1770s by a botanist. Florida spanned to lousiana at that point and he talks a about the pearl river and maurepas. Saw several bears but never mentioned deer. Ducks seemed to be plentiful thoubh
Posted on 10/2/17 at 7:36 am to Ron Cheramie
As a hunter of opportunity, there were simply better options. Passenger pigeons, enormous flocks of waterfowl, etc.
Deer were probably prized more for hides/tools in the long haul.
There were also other large prey available, elk, buffalo, especially.
Deer were probably prized more for hides/tools in the long haul.
There were also other large prey available, elk, buffalo, especially.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:06 am to Cowboyfan89
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so they only took what they needed.
this is probably false. If given the chance they slaughtered the hell out of stuff. They would run buffalo off of a cliff. Yeah I get that they couldn't keep from killing the entire herd so there was waste but there are spots found where herd of mammoths were slaughtered in ambush and piled up without taking very much meat. The whole "indians used every bit of the animal" was only true in cases of need.
I know a lot is historical speculation but indians killed and wasted when the chance arose like any other human.
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:00 am to Ron Cheramie
Posted on 10/2/17 at 9:34 am to sparkinator
quote:
The Frontiersmen.
By Allen W Eckert
just ordered. thanks
Posted on 10/2/17 at 11:06 am to Ron Cheramie
I'm certain there's probably at least one hunt master per settlement, who would bitch about Indian "x" killing "his" buck that he'd fed all summer, hunting his stand, missing out on club work days, shooting too damn many does, saying that spikes would've always been spikes, so forth and so on.
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