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Wanting to buy a rifle, but have a bad shoulder. Would be for hunting/fun.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:23 am
Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:23 am
My shoulder was basically rebuilt 3 years ago, and I still have a permanent restriction on it. It gets sore fairly easily. For a reference point, in December I fired 3 or 4 1600 fps rifled slugs from my 20 gauge and my shoulder hurt/was sore for the next 6 days. I will say it was an old crackbarrel wooden stock, manufactured before 1958, and with no hint of padding. Still shouldn't have been that bad.
Seems like my options are .243, .300 blackout, maybe a 5.56 with no margin for error, maybe 7mm? What are some other options which might work for me? Just don't give a suggestion like my FiL. He insists a .22 magnum is a deer gun, while only using it for headshots on deer that walk into the yard around his cabin.
Price is also a concern, the cheapest way to get a rifle I could hunt with would be a Mosin Nagant. But I'm guessing it would beat up my shoulder way more than I would want to deal with.
I would really like an AR. Obviously plinking would be the most fun with it, but I could get a .300 blackout upper at a later date to swap in and out. Can't really afford one right now though, unless ya'll know of some decent deals on parts to build one.
Seems like my options are .243, .300 blackout, maybe a 5.56 with no margin for error, maybe 7mm? What are some other options which might work for me? Just don't give a suggestion like my FiL. He insists a .22 magnum is a deer gun, while only using it for headshots on deer that walk into the yard around his cabin.
Price is also a concern, the cheapest way to get a rifle I could hunt with would be a Mosin Nagant. But I'm guessing it would beat up my shoulder way more than I would want to deal with.
I would really like an AR. Obviously plinking would be the most fun with it, but I could get a .300 blackout upper at a later date to swap in and out. Can't really afford one right now though, unless ya'll know of some decent deals on parts to build one.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:43 am to VaBamaMan
Remington 700 in .243. Can't go wrong with it. I have it in 30-06. Great gun. Walmart currently has the for $377. You won't regret it.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 12:44 am
Posted on 3/15/16 at 1:12 am to finchmeister08
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Remington
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Can't go wrong with it
New Remington guns lack QC and suck.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 1:13 am
Posted on 3/15/16 at 1:16 am to VaBamaMan
I don't know how bad your shoulder is but 223 out of an AR is extremely tame, especially if you put a brake on it. Just don't shoot next to me. If you're looking to hunt deer, go .243 or 7mm08.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 1:21 am to VaBamaMan
If money is a concern I would steer clear of a .300 blackout because of ammo costs.
You could get an entry level S&W or PSA AR-15 for probably $550-600.
Another option would be a budget grade bolt gun such as the Ruger American or Savage Axis. I would recommend getting one of those in .223 or .308 because of cheap ammo. $370-$415 range
You could also take the Mosin to a gunsmith and have him install a muzzle brake. Would cut the recoil down to 5.56 level.
You could get an entry level S&W or PSA AR-15 for probably $550-600.
Another option would be a budget grade bolt gun such as the Ruger American or Savage Axis. I would recommend getting one of those in .223 or .308 because of cheap ammo. $370-$415 range
You could also take the Mosin to a gunsmith and have him install a muzzle brake. Would cut the recoil down to 5.56 level.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 1:26 am
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:03 am to texag7
Could a muzzle break and a scope on a cheap Mosin get me in the woods for under $300? I'm seeing a lot of fair condition Mosins in the $160- $190 range.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:40 am to VaBamaMan
Gunsmith work would probably cost $100+
I would say get an H&R Handi rifle in .223. Looks like they are around $200. Add a budget scope and you are well under $300
I would say get an H&R Handi rifle in .223. Looks like they are around $200. Add a budget scope and you are well under $300
Posted on 3/15/16 at 3:55 am to texag7
Savage Axis in 7mm08. The Rem managed recoil rounds make it kick like a mouse fart. And 140 grain bullet will kill whatever you shoot at.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 4:33 am to VaBamaMan
For deer hunting, I'd go no smaller than 243, with 260 and 6.5x55 being better options. There's also the 6.8, which you could get in the AR you want. I'm not sure if that's in your budget.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 5:08 am to VaBamaMan
If you're going to deer hunt start at .260 or .25-06 and possibly look up from there. No matter what you buy you can have a muzzle brake put on it and that will drastically reduce recoil.
I would get either a .260, .25-06, or 7mm-08. All will have negligible recoil with a brake and they're all extremely tame without one. Don't restrict yourself to deer hunting with a .223
I would get either a .260, .25-06, or 7mm-08. All will have negligible recoil with a brake and they're all extremely tame without one. Don't restrict yourself to deer hunting with a .223
Posted on 3/15/16 at 6:38 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I would get either a .260, .25-06, or 7mm-08. All will have negligible recoil with a brake and they're all extremely tame without one. Don't restrict yourself to deer hunting with a .223
+1
There are a few ways to reduce recoil:
1. Smaller/lighter bullet
2. Muzzle brake (will be much louder by your face though)
3. Using a semi automatic versus something with a locked bolt (bolt action, crack barrel, or pump)
4. Not using a suppressor (the increased backpressure also increases felt recoil)
I think the AR10 platform would be just fine for you. A muzzle brake drastically reduces the recoil of that hard-hitting round. Plus, when you can translate some of that recoil into motion, i.e. when you use a semi auto, the recoil is lessened more.
And if you think 308 is still too much, you can buy an AR10 chambered in any round based on the .308 Win parent case - .243, .260, 7mm-08.
EDIT: Also forgot to mention that Limb Saver makes a thick recoil pad that fits on Magpul stocks. I have one on my 870.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 6:40 am
Posted on 3/15/16 at 6:53 am to bapple
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And if you think 308 is still too much, you can buy an AR10 chambered in any round based on the .308 Win parent case - .243, .260, 7mm-08.
Interesting never seen an AR10 in 243, 260, or 7/08 didn't know those varieties existed.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 6:54 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I was going to say 25-06 as well over 243. Not too much more kick than the 243 you get more bullet weight + velocity. 25-06 is more expensive than 243 though.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:04 am to DeoreDX
My Finnish M39 Nagant kicks pretty good. Even with a brake I couldn't imagine anyone considering it light on recoil. Nagants are also notorious for beating up scopes and scope mounts.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:28 am to VaBamaMan
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:29 am to VaBamaMan
Small caliber, heavy gun.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:57 am to VaBamaMan
Buy one of the newer bolt guns with a threaded barrel, like the Ruger American Predator. Then just add a muzzle break. Anything from .243 to .308 will work. I just wouldn't go any smaller than a .243 unless your a really great shot.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:03 am to snapper26
Thanks everyone. It seems this was the right place to ask this question, per the norm. Best board on TD for getting a straight answer to a query.
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:30 am to bapple
quote:Here's an additional item that will help take the sting out of recoil: LINK
1. Smaller/lighter bullet
2. Muzzle brake (will be much louder by your face though)
3. Using a semi automatic versus something with a locked bolt (bolt action, crack barrel, or pump)
4. Not using a suppressor (the increased backpressure also increases felt recoil)
Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:47 am to VaBamaMan
Get a .270. That's what my wife and daughter has and they say it doesn't kick at all.
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