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Truck Thread: Squeaky front end.

Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Swifty
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:50 pm
OB Truck Guru's:

2010 Silverado 1500 4X4 5.3L 4" Readylift - A couple of days ago I noticed a squeaking when turing my wheel slowly. I don't get any squeaking when I'm driving down the road or going over speed bumps. While changing the oil today I got under the truck and greased the upper ball joints but it didn't stop the sound. The reason I think it might be the ball joints is because I had to change them out about 6 months after I put the lift on.

Any of you suspension guru's have an idea what this could be if it isn't the upper ball joints? And, how hard do you think it would actually be to change these out? I can find them online for $30 a piece and have access to a jack. I guess I would need to find a pickle fork and the C clamp to complete this job?

Thanks in advance!



Posted by CBDTigerFan
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 6:58 pm to
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Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:14 pm to
Did you put the grease in the zerk? Looks like you either just slobbed it on or the boot is ripped.

Jack up truck wheel off of the ground. Put your hands at 12 and 6 and wiggle. If it moves, one of both of your ball joints is bad.

Then, spin the wheel around and listen for any noises. Grinding or small squealing could be your bearings.

While it is still up,see how much play your CV has in it. Look for rips in the boots also.


Car noises are extremely hard to diagnose over the internet. The way people describe noises also varies. That said, from what you describe, it sounds like CVs to me. Ball joints would just be rattling and clunking. When you turn, it puts different stresses on different points in much larger amounts.


Eta: Is it constant, intermittent, or just when you hit a bump while turning?

Is there slack in your steering wheel?
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 7:19 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:14 pm to
Lower ball joints, tie rod ends, idler/Pittman arm. Pretty much anything with a grease fitting. Grease EVERYTHING you can find and see if that helps.

If not, refer to someone smarter than me.
Posted by CBDTigerFan
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 7:15 pm to
I figured you go fix it for him
Posted by Swifty
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 8:41 pm to
There isn't any slack in the steering, and no issues with ride quality. It only squeaks when I turn the wheel slowly either way. No issues going down the road or over bumps. I'll get it up on a jack tomorrow to see if there is any play in the wheel. What is a CV?
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 8:53 pm to
That thing with boots on both sides that connects your axle to the hub is a CV

What I meant is does it squeak constantly when you turn, or is it just when you hit bumps and turn.

That sounds like it is gonna be further up there in the steering components. If you video it with your phone, post it on YouTube so we can hear it

It is a squeak and not a squeel, right? Like I said, noises are hard to explain, and harder to diagnose

Meauxjeaux2 would know what it was off of the top of his head, but as of now, I am just using the process of elimination. Eventually that one little piece of info will come through and it'll be obvious.

A video where you put your phone on the ground and turn it would be best. It ONLY happens when you are moving?
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 8:59 pm to
Yeah, and you never answered if you just slapped some grease on that upper ball joint, or if you actually pumped it into the zerk fitting.
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:12 pm to
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if you just slapped some grease


Thats what it looks like to me.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:13 pm to
Or it could be something as little as a bushing went bad

This is a zerk fitting. It either came with the BJ and you had to screw it in, or it didn't. You need need a grease gun to put grease in it

This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 9:20 pm
Posted by Swifty
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:24 pm to
Yeah, definitely just slapped some grease on the outside. I don't have a grease gun at the house. It doesn't matter if the car is rolling or not, it squeaks when I turn the wheel on flat ground. There aren't any pops, and I don't get any feedback into the wheel or the ride, everything is still smooth.
Posted by KingRanch
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:25 pm to
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Squeaky
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Silverado


Typical
Posted by Swifty
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:27 pm to
Thanks again for the help by the way
Posted by bapple
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:35 pm to
quote:

Jack up truck wheel off of the ground. Put your hands at 12 and 6 and wiggle. If it moves, one of both of your ball joints is bad.

Then, spin the wheel around and listen for any noises. Grinding or small squealing could be your bearings.

While it is still up,see how much play your CV has in it. Look for rips in the boots also.


Best piece of advice here. You have to find where the play is.

Or even better, you can jack up the entire front of your truck (use jack stands) and spin your steering wheel. The wheel will be much freer and you won't have extra noise from your tire grinding pavement. This may help you find the noise. Having a partner there to listen for the exact location of the noise would also help.

If the sound is there every time you turn the wheel, it shouldn't be hard to spot if you follow this process.
Posted by Swifty
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

If the sound is there every time you turn the wheel, it shouldn't be hard to spot if you follow this process.


Yeah, I tried this with the tires on the ground. I'll probably get a better angle with it on jack stands.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 9:54 pm to
Um, might wanna wipe that off. It is just gonna be a mess when you try doing anything with it. Unless the boot is ripped, you can't get grease in there without a gun. I think they are only like $10 and a tube of grease is like $4. You probably have a bunch of greaseable joints, so it might not be a bad investment.

If it squeaks like that, it seems like it would be your pump. Check the fluid. Not common, but I am guessing you have bigger tires, and that would wear on them more.

Get down there and wiggle each and every ball joint. If there is play, replacement is in your near future. Having someone listen, even if it is your old lady helps because they can just point to what it is. It isn't your CV joints. A ball joint could just have a hole in a and be dried out. Who knows.

I am trying to think of something else that I know squeaks, but can't right now. I can hear it, but just can't think of what it is. It is a common thing on GM trucks that run in dusty conditions, but I can't remember


Eta: Looking back at that picture, it seems like your bushings are dry. Those could be what is squeaking. If that is the case, you can probably get new parts, or get a polyurethane bushing kit. It would sound like rubber if that was the case
This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 10:10 pm
Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 10:06 pm to
Does it squeal the entire time you are turning? Can you tell where the sound is coming from?

Hammertime it sounds like you might be right - the power steering pump

This post was edited on 3/22/13 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 10:31 pm to
Remembered what it was. Sometimes it comes from inside the steering column up by the firewall. I have noticed it on more than one GM truck/SUV. It sounds like it comes from under the gauge cluster

You would be able to hear it and it sounds like it is in the cab
Posted by RollTideRob
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 10:57 pm to
several of the gm trucks and suv's had a problem with the steering gear squeaking.
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 3/22/13 at 11:02 pm to
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