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re: Trout regulations back to square one

Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:51 pm to
Posted by Novastar
Member since Jan 2023
294 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:51 pm to
Here's what I propose.

- Eliminate Pogey boats off the coast of Louisiana. Doing this will greatly improve the Red fish stocks, speckle trout and juvenile snapper mortality.

- Reduce daily bag limits for Redfish and Trout.
- No harvest allowed for captain and crew.
Posted by GumboPoBoy
Member since Jun 2015
324 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:10 pm to
This is what is needed. 25 trout is mostly wasteful no matter the impact or lack there of to the fishery.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 3/6/23 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

Eliminate Pogey boats off the coast of Louisiana.


This should have happened years ago. But in typical LA fashion, people got paid and they’ll get paid again once the damage is done and conservation efforts begin
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10224 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 9:33 am to
quote:

But in typical LA fashion, people got paid and they’ll get paid again once the damage is done and conservation efforts begin


Truth....and only LA seems to wait until there is a major problem to begin any sort of conservation efforts.
Posted by voros79
Member since Nov 2015
368 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 10:39 am to
The state senator who runs the committee that the pogey bill was in has an Omega plant in district. He killed it. Bill would pass and get signed into law but he is in the way.
Posted by F73ME
SE LA
Member since May 2018
858 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 11:52 am to
Which senator?
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10224 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Which senator?


Bob Hensgens - Senator over District 26 in Abbeville right where Omega is operating.

Oh...he's also the chairman of the Senate Natural Resources Committee.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 1:43 pm to
Seriously, would you like me to mediate this for you guys? I don’t live in Louisiana no dog in this fight and have actually been involved in litigation on this exact issue for CCA in Mississippi. I know the science on this issue like the back of my hand.

Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10224 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 4:32 pm to
I don't have any authority to hire you but I'd love to talk with you about it.
Posted by Novastar
Member since Jan 2023
294 posts
Posted on 3/7/23 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

Bob Hensgens - Senator over District 26 in Abbeville right where Omega is operating.

Oh...he's also the chairman of the Senate Natural Resources Committee.


Total POS
Posted by fairhope
Member since Sep 2020
55 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:34 am to
what does lowering the limit have to do with size? that makes no sense at all. lack of big fish is a direct result of pressure. when was the last hurricane?
Posted by fairhope
Member since Sep 2020
55 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:35 am to
absolutely.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16604 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:47 am to
quote:

what does lowering the limit have to do with size?


Lower harvest percentage should theoretically result in more fish reaching larger size. Fish avoiding being culled and thus continue growth and lifespan. More breeding females. More eggs that will hatch.
This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by mrcoon
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2019
536 posts
Posted on 3/8/23 at 8:51 am to
Nothing will be right until we get rid of or overhaul this:

quote:

Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries Commission
The Commission is charged with the control and supervision of the wildlife of the state, including all aquatic life. The Commission operates as a policy-making and budgetary control board, with no administrative function. The Commission receives and reviews biological, socioeconomic, and other technical data and management recommendations from LDWF, gathers public input, and ultimately votes on which actions will best achieve long-term management goals. In general, the Commission is charged with setting seasons, times, places, size limits, quotas, daily take, and possession limits based upon biological data and setting fees for nonresident recreational fishing licenses, among other authorities.

This post was edited on 3/8/23 at 8:53 am
Posted by F73ME
SE LA
Member since May 2018
858 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 8:57 am to
quote:

Lower harvest percentage should theoretically result in more fish reaching larger size. Fish avoiding being culled and thus continue growth and lifespan. More breeding females. More eggs that will hatch.




I understand your theory, but every time I hear someone talk about management of their bass pond, they talk about how if you don't harvest then all you will have is small skinny bass. I know that doesnt necessarily translate 100% to trout in an open environment, but the logic is obviously contradictory to your statement above.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16604 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:11 am to
quote:

I know that doesnt necessarily translate 100% to trout in an open environment, but the logic is obviously contradictory to your statement above.


Because of the finite forage and biomass a pond can sustain. You're talking pond management tactics.

Why do you think catch and release is promoted on bigger bass fishing lakes? Why do you think release of bass is a rule in every major bass fishing tournament/tour?
Posted by tz4tigers
louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
26 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:21 am to
First 25 caught - no throw backs.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16604 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 9:46 am to
quote:

no throw backs.


If they aren't gut hooked or have a hook in the gills then speckled trout have a good survival percentage if released immediately
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