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re: Tree Stands

Posted on 6/2/22 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1252 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 5:36 pm to
This is from one of your keyword searches, I think this is about the cable versions which were recalled and modified. I have never heard of the chain version failing.

"One success story of a hunting equipment manufacturer and the CPSC working together to protect the hunting public came in the form of a voluntary recall that API Outdoors and the CPSC issued in 2002 for a pair of hunting tree stand models that were found to have defective cables. In this case, API Outdoors received notice from two of their customers that the cables on their hunting tree stands had broken and resulted in the hunters falling to the ground, but no one was seriously injured. API Outdoors responded appropriately by contacting the CPSC, and a decision was reached to recall the roughly 9000 tree stands that were on the market with faulty cables. The models included in this recall were the API Buckmaster Grand Slam Climbing Treestand and the API Hi-Point Cable Cat Climbing Treestand. As a result of the recall, no further injuries were reported."

"WASHINGTON, D.C. - In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), API Outdoors of Tallulah, La., a division of Outland Sports Inc., of Overland Park, Kan., is voluntarily recalling about 9,000 treestands used by hunters. A cable that secures the treestand to the tree can break, posing the risk of falls and serious injuries to hunters.

API Outdoors has received two reports of the treestand's cable breaking, including one person who fell from a tree and suffered leg abrasions.

The recalled treestands have the following brand names and model numbers: API Hi-Point Cable Cat Climbing Treestand, Model #CC501 and API Buckmaster Grand Slam Climbing Treestand, Model #GS3800BM. The treestands have an olive green frame, camo seats and seatbacks with black nylon cinch straps, and a yellow "WARNING" or "DANGER" label that reads in part, "Safety Restraint Must Be Used At All Times." The treestands are manufactured in Tallulah, La.

Retailers and distributors nationwide, including Wal-Mart, sold the Cable Cat treestands through mid-October 2002 for about $180 and Cabelas stores nationwide sold the Buckmaster treestands through mid- October 2002 for about $230.

Consumers should stop using these treestands immediately and call API Outdoors toll-free at (800) 228-4846 anytime to receive a free, replacement chain."

LINK

Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 5:42 pm to
No, i remember the picture of the link in the chain. Remember showing it to my Api luving buddy.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 5:47 pm to
Anyway, i use the Treestand Wingman. Talk about feel safe. I can fall asleep and fall out and will just slowly float to the ground.

Got the procedure down to quick & quiet at 5 am darkness.

LINK /
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1252 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 5:54 pm to
quote:

No, i remember the picture of the link in the chain. Remember showing it to my Api luving buddy.


I. too, am an API fan. Still using stands that I bought 30 years ago. I would not use them if they were proven unsafe. Nor would I let my kids use them for the same reason.

Just not sure that giving them a rap as unsafe is fair if there is no empirical evidence to say that they are. I'm certainly not calling you a liar, you say you saw something and I trust you, but I still haven't seen the evidence to back that claim. There were surely hundreds of thousands of those stands sold. One possible failure in no way makes a track record, nor should it brand a stand as unsafe.
Posted by Ole Mule
Too far south
Member since Mar 2011
4555 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:06 pm to
check out Cougar Claw climbing stands.
I bought one last year and like it better than my Summit.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:07 pm to
I know. It won't open. It was an eye opening pic. I think i remember them saying the outer sheath trapped moisture, water.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:11 pm to
Late 80's, most of the 90's, i was an Ol Man treestand dedicated person. And i have the same one still today. It came from Hattisburg, original, and is downright dangerous. Long retired. I keep it as a museum piece.
John was still running the L&L Enterprises when it was made. Those blades slipped.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Walkerdog14
Member since Dec 2014
1221 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 6:43 pm to
I have 2 of the Grandslams and wouldn’t trade them for anything, I do use a ratchet strap on the seat part just for a little more bite.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11469 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:40 pm to
quote:

Tigerinthewoods


One of the links I posted seems to be what he was talking about. For some reason it's a dead link if you click it but if you Google what he posted a few posts before it's there. I didn't dig in to it too deep, I don't have api stands so I don't have any dogs in the fight.
Posted by Tigerinthewoods
In the woods
Member since Oct 2009
1252 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:51 pm to
Wish I could open the link. I'm really interested to see what it says about the failure. Thanks for trying, Loup.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 7:54 pm to
If i remember right, the metallurgist said the the links broke free of the pins . It's been a while since i looked at this. I wish that site still worked.

Is there any way to use an Api chain WITHOUT any coating ?? That way, u could put on some good magnifying glasses, and look at the links.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 7:59 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81745 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:06 pm to
Some of the failures were probably user error. I know at least a couple were caused by inserting the pins in the last link. There's nothing unsafe about these stands.
Posted by A_bear
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2013
1976 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Summit Viper Elite SD


Best climber ever made. Just have to put a replacement seat on it because the mesh sucks. Ive been having the specialist SD for years, which is the same as the viper, just open front. When I bought it, the stores were sold out of the viper sd. Ive been looking for a used one ever since and FINALLY found one on Facebook marketplace last season. Took me about 6 years, but I finally have one lol
Posted by Pepperidge
Slidell
Member since Apr 2011
4314 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 8:57 pm to
I have a 2 Summit Goliath SD's...very comfortable


but by far the most comfortable tree stand I have(2) is the Gunslinger 350 I can sit all day.

they are a little heavy, so I leave em on my tree until it's time to move it to different part of the lease.
Posted by 17theBears
Member since Apr 2012
6982 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:00 pm to
Found one in MS Market Bulletin last year. Brand new. Got it for $150.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:04 pm to
My two Viper Elite SD's, they have a quick remove seat probably the mesh you mentioned. But every night from an eve hunt, i take it, and the 3 zipper arm pads out, and back in the morning . They stay dry.

If that spot is in cool off mode, i sometimes lock up the skeletons only in a palmetto patch. No cables, no pads, no nothing. Just the skeleton frames.
Then i am in the other one somewhere else.
This post was edited on 6/2/22 at 9:07 pm
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11469 posts
Posted on 6/2/22 at 9:18 pm to
I'll post screenshots when I'm on a computer tomorrow
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 6:51 am to
I would like to see how Summit swages the stops on their cables. You know they have faith in it.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
11469 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 8:15 am to
Try this out.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PaIUf_dS16x5kxLbB25i1zK_xroafXVn/view?usp=sharing

Conclusion:
quote:

Stress calculations and experimental testing
showed that imperfections in these chains would
not contribute to a premature failure under normally expected use.
Imperfections in both cases
(assuming that the chain cracks occurred in manufacturing) were very obvious and totally unacceptable for manufacturing quality for the chain.
However, neither imperfection was capable of
producing failure under design use conditions.
Instead, conditions outside of normal use were the
probable cause of both chain failures, even though
the failures occurred at imperfections
.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 8:18 am
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:28 am to
Now we're clear.

I'm not using it. But it seems a well taken care of chain ought to be good.

I would rather a chain without rubber covering, so i could inspect it .
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