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re: Texas Longhorn Bulls (Semen Related)

Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:23 am to
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:23 am to
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Do you consider birth weights, yearling weights, etc. like you would with beef cattle?


Yeah, but the the smaller the better. As the cattle evolved in Mexico and S. Texas of hundreds of years with little human interaction. The ones that had no calving trouble because of smaller calves, went on to pass their genes, whereas, cows with bigger calves would die during the birthing process and not be able to pass on that trait.

Some beef producers use a longhorn bull on 1st calf beef heifers for this reason.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:25 am to
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You do have a set on your truck right?


I keep skulls on my shed and barn. I'm not ready to pull off the Boss Hogg Cadillac with horns...
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:28 am to
Late entry:

I forgot about this bull, but all of the "classic longhorn" comments reminded me that that's what I said the first time I saw him.

11.
Posted by Choirboy
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:41 am to
#11 will change a bunch of folks votes. That is a great looking bull.
Posted by Tigah32
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:45 am to
This dude's a beast



Posted by h0bnail
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:47 am to
He's pretty. Doesn't have much going on in the back end, though.
Posted by tigerpaw08716
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:48 am to
#2 and #8 ,... They look like that have more meat on their back hips
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:49 am to
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That is a great looking bull.


Color and horn yes, but I've seen enough fat girl pics on facebook to know a thing or two about angle pics. He is light in the rear and high flanked. I like a bull that if you cut off their head and legs you'd be left with a thick rectangle of body.

That said, his color is unmatched in the industry right now and a lot of people are willing to sacrafice confirmation to get it. That bull is syndicated with over 20 owners/ranches, and they are jacking him off daily.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:52 am to
If you don't mind what do the numbers on this type of operation look like?
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:57 am to
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If you don't mind what do the numbers on this type of operation look like?


Start up costs?
Yearly costs?
Semen costs?

All of the above?
Posted by Flair Chops
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 8:58 am to
2, 3, 11
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:01 am to
Just like an annual cost/revenue type deal?


What's a bull run? What do you sell that bull for down the road?

If that makes sense
Posted by Capt ST
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:04 am to
2 looks bad arse.
Posted by Nwlasaint
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:07 am to
I still like 2 best, but 11 would be my second choice
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:14 am to
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Just like an annual cost/revenue type deal?


First of all it helps to have land and a trailer. I wouldn't go spend 80K on 40 acres to raise longhorns, but if you have the land do it for the tax credit.

Per head, you need 1.5 round bales of hay per winter at $30 or $35 a bale. We cut a deal with our neighbor who cuts hay. We rotate our cows to one of our 2 pastures and he cuts the hay off the other. We split the bales down the middle with him. So we get free hay and he cuts hay to sale half. Then you have to worm every year, but thats like $60 for the whole heard. We feed them cubes through the winter too, but only a sack or 2 a week maybe so another $300 total.

Revenue, we sale our unwanted cows by the pound. Running 20 head that usually ends up being 5 or 6 cows a year. They bring a little over $1/lbs. All in all it's enough to cover costs, but profitable is not the word to be used. We just like them, so it's worth it to us. If we were into trying to make money we'd have angus of braford cows with an angus bull.

quote:

What's a bull run?


It all depends, but you pay for what you get.

quote:

What do you sell that bull for down the road?


Rarely is someone going to have to have your bull. For the 11 bulls I listed there are 1000 more for sale all of the country at any given time.

Every two or 3 years, we put a new bull on our cows to insert new genetics, and our old bull is one of the 5 or 6 that gets hauled off to the sale where they bring a little over $1/lbs.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:26 am to
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Every two or 3 years, we put a new bull on our cows to insert new genetics, and our old bull is one of the 5 or 6 that gets hauled off to the sale


This is my bull that is on his way out...



And this is his replacement, sired by #6



He just turned 1 and is about to hit his growth spurt. He'll be ready to breed next year.

You can tell I like dark bulls. It tends to throw flash with lighter colored cows.

Also, note that my young bull and #6 look nothing a like color wise. He was bred with a darker colored cow and this was the result. That's the cool thing about longhorns, you never know what you are going to get.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 9:50 am
Posted by Nwlasaint
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:36 am to
If his horns catch up with his body he will be impressive
Posted by xenon16
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:41 am to
quote:

you never know what you are going to get.


Is that with all of the features or just colors?

Like body type? Horn type? Do they follow the same genetics? Or is random
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:42 am to
What is the cost of the semen?
Posted by AHouseDivided
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Anywhere from $25 to $150 a straw.
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